oldsubguy Posted December 31, 2001 Report Share Posted December 31, 2001 I have been playing 4 mo. now and enjoy it a lot but am already looking to research my next instrument. I have a Scherl and Roth E301H Prelude series. It is good for now, but am looking toward what would be next. Also, I go to sea on a sub and am looking for a "beater" to take with me that won't sacrifice so much in tone that I can't continue to learn but that wouldn't be a tragedy if broken. Any advice on a beater or on a step up for the Scherl? Please be specific on model since they vary so much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldsubguy Posted December 31, 2001 Author Report Share Posted December 31, 2001 To amplify my last, I'm looking in the under $2,000.00 range. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g#maj Posted December 31, 2001 Report Share Posted December 31, 2001 Hey oldsubguy, I used to be surface navy, eons ago... I know you guys don't have the moist, salty air to deal with, but still, you sure you want to take a finely shaped wooden object worth $2K out to sea? In your boat (pun intended), I'd take the model you own already, bring some extra strings, and save your money till you get back. Another option: Yamaha's silent violin, or maybe Fender's electric model. (I'm thinking about construction material as well as where you'll practice.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pegasus Posted December 31, 2001 Report Share Posted December 31, 2001 I don't know about taking it to sea with you but you might check out Ifshin's Jay Haide violins. They cost between about 1500 I think and some of them are quite nice. My son has one of their cellos and I bought one of their violas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldsubguy Posted December 31, 2001 Author Report Share Posted December 31, 2001 What i meant was that i am looking for a "beater" (in addition to one for the move up). In other words maybe someone has experience with the low end stuff (for sea) and a different one to "move up to" from the Scherl. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aamtnbike Posted December 31, 2001 Report Share Posted December 31, 2001 I'm trying to get rid of a violin that costs $2000. no case or bow, but i think it is the finest violin i've seen in that price. honestly. if you are interested or curious feel free to contact me privately at aamtnbike@aol.com i live in the seattle area, so we could arrange a time to play it and give it some lovin' oh yeah, am i allowed to try to sell stuff on this discussion board? thanks, aaron [This message has been edited by aamtnbike (edited 12-31-2001).] [This message has been edited by aamtnbike (edited 12-31-2001).] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taxus Posted December 31, 2001 Report Share Posted December 31, 2001 For your beater I know exactly what you mean. Not a $200,$300,$1000 or $2000 but a CHEAPIE My wife bought me a BRAND NEW ANTON BRETON (woo hoo ) on ebay for same type of reason. They are fine for beating on (I planned to use it in Saudi on my Deployments). Acutually the model I got has good sound too(not $2000 sound but good). What ever you get you will want to put a good set of strings on it. We used Dominants. It makes a world of diffrence in a cheepie. We got ours for $70 with case and bow. The strings were $27. There were no defects it is very playable. I think the finnish is a laquer not an oil varnish. For me it was good because of the intense heat when transporting anywhere (124 F when I was there). here is a link to an auction for the exact style we got a few months ago from the same seller http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?V...item=1402886832 I liked these folks they were nice to do buisness with. The violin is better than the other ones like it (so is the case). P.S. I would just try to email these people an let them know that you are in the service and WHY you want the violin mabie they woukld just send you one for the same price or less best of luck Tax [This message has been edited by Taxus (edited 12-31-2001).] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thierryb Posted December 31, 2001 Report Share Posted December 31, 2001 Here is a nice link from Strings Magazine that can help you out. http://www.stringsmagazine.com/issues/stri...coverstory.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrWoof Posted December 31, 2001 Report Share Posted December 31, 2001 Go on ebay and get one of those el cheapo violins. Have the thing set up properly so that it is playable. For the beater,camping violin this is usually good enough. Now before you invest a lot of cash into a good instrument I recommend you upgrade your bow first. A good bow will aid you in performing miracles on the lousiest fiddle and will travel with you when you get a good instrument. You may also wish to look in pawn shops and flea markets. Regards, Don Crandall Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deb Posted January 1, 2002 Report Share Posted January 1, 2002 Oldsubguy: You can always haunt the pawn shops, too. -deb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldsubguy Posted January 1, 2002 Author Report Share Posted January 1, 2002 Went ahead and bought a h. siegel HS-20 for $125.00. Sound is good enough to use at sea but I will have to get the nut filed because the strings (dominants) sit too high and I can seldom bow a string with my fingers on another like on the Scherl. Thanks for all your help guys.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldsubguy Posted January 1, 2002 Author Report Share Posted January 1, 2002 Thanks for the advice guys, will let you know what i do.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrWoof Posted January 2, 2002 Report Share Posted January 2, 2002 quote: Originally posted by oldsubguy: Went ahead and bought a h. siegel HS-20 for $125.00. Sound is good enough to use at sea but I will have to get the nut filed because the strings (dominants) sit too high and I can seldom bow a string with my fingers on another like on the Scherl. Thanks for all your help guys.... Put some Helicores on that thing and it will sound better. Dominants are nice when new but get muddy quickly. Don Crandall Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Fruit Posted January 2, 2002 Report Share Posted January 2, 2002 Don - No string is good for every violin. You keep saying that Helicores will be great on every violin anyone mentioned - and it just ain't so. Some instruments just don't take well to them but work well with Dominants. Some are just the opposite. I had one violin that sounded its best with Super Sensitive Red Labels, believe it or not! Jason R. Fruit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Gow Posted January 2, 2002 Report Share Posted January 2, 2002 quote: Originally posted by MrWoof: Put some Helicores on that thing and it will sound better. Dominants are nice when new but get muddy quickly. Don Crandall Wow, a REAL fiddle player - I believe some of them classical types rinse their hands in the hog trough first Neil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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