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Where is toasty these days? And what about Starlight-sweetie?


JANICE

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I haven't heard from toasty for sometime now. I enjoy his posts. And does anyone know how Starlight-Sweetie is doing? I know her mother is ill, hope she is OK...kinda scary not hearing from her. If you guys are out there reading these posts pop in and tell us how you are. I know this isn't string related, sorry. I didn't think it would be seen in the Soapbox...

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You haven't been here recently, have you? Well, to make a long story short, Starlight-sweetie left. She posted a thread about buying an expensive bow in the $100,000 range. People started to question her. I guess it was a bit odd because she also said that he owned a del Gesu and has been teaching for over 10 years (since she was 4!).

[This message has been edited by illuminatus (edited 03-17-2001).]

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HKV, I know you are very open-minded person. I think I am open-minded, too. But some things just look odd. She may have Guarneri and $70K. Yes, Chang was able to play almost anything at the age of 6, but she didn't teach and she is not teaching. I doubt that there is a parent who would trust a 6 year old teacher.

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Let's not dig up an old argument!

But have you ever considered a possibility of a 6 year old giving "casual" lessons to other kids similar in age who were not nearly as advanced for very cheap price or other forms of compensation? Helping to hold the bow arm or listen and correct intonation as needed can be done if one is sufficiently advanced and has good ears (Erica Morini used to point out intonation slips of her father's students when she was 3 years old).

I actually inquired about this to Starlight-Sweetie herself sometime ago and her reply more or less confirmed my theory.

Another thing. If I recall correctly, S-S did not mention what level of students she was/is teaching. Sure, she probably cannot teach someone who is playing Paganini caprices, but she is probably compentent enough to coach beginners and intermediates. It will be more of "demonstration" lessons, rather than "analytical" ones, but I believe it is entirely possible.

From my experience, my YOUNGER sister was my first teacher when I started at the age of 14 (she was 11), and she was not at the same level as Starlight-Sweetie's. But she was a good teacher for me. Very exacting in terms of tone quality, intonation and most of all, rhythm. My first "formal" teacher was stunned by my progress during the time I was with my sister (about 6 months). My sister basically achieved this through a bit of (not a whole a lot) demonstration and absolute intolerance for bad intonation, tone or rhythm.

I have every reason to believe that S-S is capable of doing what my sister did to me when she was 11, especially S-S seems to me a significantly better violinist than my sister (I did not want to bring up my own case with my sister since I hate to sound like I am bragging, but every single words I wrote regarding my own playing at that time as well as my sister are true).

This will be my last post about this subject. I have no intention of dwelling on this any longer than I feel necessary.

Case closed!

Toscha

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EDITED

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Originally posted by Toscha:

Let's not dig up an old argument!

But have you ever considered a possibility of a 6 year old giving "casual" lessons to other kids similar in age who were not nearly as advanced for very cheap price or other forms of compensation? .......

Toscha

Since you already dug it up, Toscha, no, I can't imagine it. 6 year olds are much too self centered and value their own time too highly to consider doing such a thing.

I can't imagine a 6 year old playing the Bruch violin concerto either, so maybe I just have a poor imagination.....

Max

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I didn't know all of that had taken place, as I do have lapses in my visits to the Board from time to time. I didn't mean to open up a can of worms. I was concerned about her and her mom. I know what that illness can do to a family.

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At six, there doesn't seem to be a good reason why she wouldn't be reading music -- I believe her overall general intelligence is fairly high, which makes early reading in general pretty plausible.

Otherwise I imagine it could have been taught to her note by note by her father -- Sarah Chang's father is a professional violinist himself, and a former student of Dorothy Delay, for that matter.

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quote:

Originally posted by HuangKaiVun:

staylor, did you get my e-mail on the Maestronet Reunion 2001?

I will, when my computer comes back from extensive service. It seems to be human nature not to start anything for a person when he is not standing over him, in the same country, which the whole plan had been.

I don't know how else to access my e-mails, but it can always be sent to (this), my fathers computer by substituting staylor for alant.

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If I recall correctly, Starlight_Sweetie raised the $70,000 in bow-spending money herself, from the lessons she had been giving since 6 years old. I think many folks here had a problem believing that.... and believing that her father bought her a del Gesu.

Like I said then.... I have no reason NOT to believe her.... I had friends in high school driving $100,000 cars their parents had purchased for them.... These same friends would spend summers in the Hamptons in houses that rented for about that much for 3 months -- again, paid for by their parents.

Different people live differently and some can afford things that others cannot.

We were wrong to drive her away.

Please come back, Starlight_Sweetie.....

[This message has been edited by Ludwig (edited 03-19-2001).]

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I have been reading this thread for the last couple of days, and only rejoined this board to set the record straight on myself.

1. I never said I had a Del Gesu violin. I simply said I had a Joseph Guarnerius violin, that my grandfather lets me use. As I said before he collects.

2. I view teaching as helping, and giving advice, not as charging money to actually sit down for 30 to 60 minutes and drill students. Drilling students, and whatnot I consider giving lessons. I had taught my friends little tips on the violin when I was 6, I did not do drills and charge money. My friends and I just traded little toys. Obviously there are people out there who will not believe me, but over the past months I have come to realize that I do not care what others think of me, especially people on the Internet.

3. I never played the Bruch concerto when I was 6. I played it when I was about 8.

4. For those who care, my mother is doing ok. She was in remission for a while, but the cancer has lapsed back, and she is undergoing chemotherapy and will start radiation treatments soon.

5. I am sorry, if this starts a big war again, but it gets on my nerves to see people saying stuff that is completely untrue about you. It agitates me and gets on my nerves. I would also like to say thank you for the people to have been kind to me through out all this mess, and also I respect everyone on this boards opinions, even if they are against me.

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