Agatha Posted November 18, 2000 Report Share Posted November 18, 2000 [This message has been edited by Agatha (edited 06-05-2001).] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeH Posted November 18, 2000 Report Share Posted November 18, 2000 Smokes what? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldbear Posted November 18, 2000 Report Share Posted November 18, 2000 I understand donuel's fiddle begins to smoke after he has played it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agatha Posted November 18, 2000 Author Report Share Posted November 18, 2000 cigarettes, cigars etc. Sorry, I should have said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mlbouquet Posted November 18, 2000 Report Share Posted November 18, 2000 Reminds me of the old joke: Question: Do you smoke after sex? Answer: I don't know. I never looked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldbear Posted November 18, 2000 Report Share Posted November 18, 2000 Aw, Aggie, we know what ya meant. We were just spoofing a little. It's pretty well know that popular musicians (rock & jazz artists especially) seem to be highly susceptable to addictive things, cigarettes probably being the most innocuous. I've always thought of classical musicians as being much more self disciplined and less likely to acquire those kinds of habits, but there sure are exceptions. Jascha Heifetz seemed to always have a cigarette in his hand when he wasn't playing, and I've seen movies of Enrico Caruso smoking. Can you believe that? You'd think with his voice being so important he'd have more sense. But I guess "talent" doesn't necessarily equal "smart." I Don't know if Gil does or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
illuminatus Posted November 18, 2000 Report Share Posted November 18, 2000 Back then, people didn't know much about tobacco related problems. I know that Pablo Casals smoked cigar. His Bach recording released by EMI has the famous picture. He was veiled by cigar smoke and playing cello. It looked almost mysterious. Back when Heifetz was really active, just about everyone smoked. It was more or less a fashionable thing to do. As a matter of fact, Mike Wallace was smoking and interviewing Frank Lloyd Wright at the same time. [This message has been edited by illuminatus (edited 11-19-2000).] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonavon Posted November 19, 2000 Report Share Posted November 19, 2000 Pablo Casals smoked a pipe not a cigar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daisy Posted November 19, 2000 Report Share Posted November 19, 2000 I was horrified to find that a great number of the faculty at the National Youth Orchestra smoked (cigarettes). Many of the players did as well. I can half understand that... stupid stressed young people and all that... but the teachers? It seems a shame that such good musicians have major health problems like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuangKaiVun Posted November 20, 2000 Report Share Posted November 20, 2000 I don't know if Shaham smokes. But I strongly advise against it, as smoking is so detrimental to one's health. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~Katie~ Posted November 20, 2000 Report Share Posted November 20, 2000 I am underage and personally find smoking to be disgusting (no offense to anyone who's developed this unfortunate addiction) but my teacher smokes a pipe. Katie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LBlake Posted November 20, 2000 Report Share Posted November 20, 2000 I just saw a post on cello chat the other day talking about once how Janos Starker was at a concert venue, smoking in his dressing room.... One of the venue workers came in and repromanded him for smoking, so Starker left. Sounds like a pretty serious smoker to me. At my orchestras, I can always tell when a smoker walks in - you can smell them. There don't seem to be very many, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad Stevens Posted November 20, 2000 Report Share Posted November 20, 2000 I've had two adult beginners who smoked or had family members who smoked. It is remarkable how the smell of stale tobacco smoke has permeated their instruments. They really reek! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen Posted November 20, 2000 Report Share Posted November 20, 2000 I had a teacher who smoked while playing. Cigarette dangled from his mouth (so close to his Strad!) and he'd also hold it in his right hand while bowing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corine Posted November 20, 2000 Report Share Posted November 20, 2000 I know that Vadim Repin smokes a lot, first sigarettes, and now cigarillo's. I still think it's unhealthy though... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lydia Leong Posted November 20, 2000 Report Share Posted November 20, 2000 Stephen, I had a teacher who did that, too. (I don't know if he owned a Strad, though. I don't think so -- but he did have an excellent and no doubt expensive instrument.) He could toss off Paganini caprices while smoking a cigarette out of the corner of his mouth. He never seemed to notice. But it made *me* nervous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atlee Posted November 20, 2000 Report Share Posted November 20, 2000 quote: Originally posted by illuminatus: Back when Heifetz was really active, just about everyone smoked. It was more or less a fashionable thing to do. My first Milstein CD - Nathan Milstein-Artur Balsam, the 1953 Library of Congress Recital, Beethoven-Bach-Brahms - has Milstein on the cover with cigarette dangled from his mouth. I hesitated for a minute before making the purchase because of it. But just like illuminatus said, it was fashionable thing back then. I guess only in the USA that we feel so strongly about smoking... -- Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yankee Fiddler Posted November 20, 2000 Report Share Posted November 20, 2000 My fiddle smokes at the session I play at once a week. Anyway, it smells that way when I get it home. It takes about a week sometimes to get that horrible cigarette smoke smell to clear away, and then its time to go back again for another session. Some weeks are much worse than others. As a fiddler, I don't smoke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norman Clark Posted November 20, 2000 Report Share Posted November 20, 2000 Milstein came to Seattle in the early 1950s He played the Tchaikovsky concerto with the Seattle Symphony. He was quite obviously a chain smoker. He lit the new one with the old. During rehearsal he played the entire 2nd movement with a cigarette in his mouth. At the transition to the 3rd movement, the orchestra really came in with a "bang". Milstein jumped and the ash fell off his cigarette. We in the orchestra about broke up with laughter. In fact things ground to a halt. Milstein was even laughing. During the actual performance when we came to that transition, everyone in the orchestra and Milstein had a huge grin on their face. At his entrance to the 3rd movement, he actually jumped off the floor and came in with a "bang". I don't know what the audience thought, but the orchestra was all smiles, and we had a view into the Milstein humor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emma Lily Posted November 20, 2000 Report Share Posted November 20, 2000 Can you sue the tobacco companies for damage to your Strad? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
illuminatus Posted November 20, 2000 Report Share Posted November 20, 2000 Maybe a brilliant lawyer or really stupid lawyer will sue a tobacco company for a damaged Strad. If you accidentally drive over your Strad with your car, will you sue your car company? quote: Originally posted by Emma Lily: Can you sue the tobacco companies for damage to your Strad? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theresa Posted November 21, 2000 Report Share Posted November 21, 2000 Mr. Wallack--my once and former teacher--said Milstein was often seen with a cigarette in a cigarette holder, but that he, like Bill Clinton in a different scenario, never inhaled. Most musicians and music teachers I know do not smoke. I must confess that I've probably smoked lightly about 10 of my 51 years and certainly no longer. When I did, I loved it--but it was only a few cigarettes a day....a kind of luxury. I developed acute bronchial asthma and I will be on a nebulizer for the rest of my life. I am a testament to the ills of smoking even very, very lightly. Curiously, I hate the smell of smoke. Ah, me. What I'd change in my past if I could!! Best regards, Theresa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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