Pagamini Posted June 23 Report Posted June 23 Hi, What is the origin of this violin and bow? I have doubts about whether it is handmade. It has a bridge by the luthier Silvio Tua from Nice, which is not original. I also have doubts about the bow. It looks like it is silver-plated, is the wood from Pernambuco? It is quite light, weighing 51g. Could it be French? The bow has no engraved brand and the violin has no brand or label inside.
Pagamini Posted June 23 Author Report Posted June 23 12 minutes ago, jacobsaunders said: the violin is a "Usual" I thought so too. But I put some strings on it and it has a good sound. And what did you think of the bow? It doesn't seem bad to me, but I not a expert…
Guido Posted June 24 Report Posted June 24 6 hours ago, Pagamini said: I have doubts about whether it is handmade. Have you checked if it is fully blocked and lined, has real inlaid purfling; and if the bow has real horse hair? Then obviously it’s a master violin. The bow seems to be French, hard to tell if silver mounted, probably nickel recently polished.
Bob K Posted June 24 Report Posted June 24 Depends on your definition of 'Handmade'. Was it made by a single person with no machines? HIghly unlikely (no). This is my understanding of the process, corrections or clarification welcome: It would have been the product of several skilled people who made individual parts in a number of locations either by hand (quite likely) or possibly with the aid of some machinery. Some of these parts may have been pre-assembled and would have been 'shipped' (carried) and brought together at another location (e.g. Markneukirchen) where they were assembled by hand and finished by hand with a remote possibility that a spraygun was used (doesn't look like it). It would have been set up by hand. Presence of corner blocks doesn't neccesarily make it a 'Master violin', just a different style of construction.
Nick Allen Posted June 24 Report Posted June 24 No, OP. My extensive expertise indicates to me, without a shadow of a doubt that this violin is in fact footmade.
LCF Posted June 24 Report Posted June 24 4 minutes ago, Nick Allen said: No, OP. My extensive expertise indicates to me, without a shadow of a doubt that this violin is in fact footmade. I would love to have a footmaid.
Deo Lawson Posted June 24 Report Posted June 24 Well the only way to know that for sure would be to give it a sniff.
Blank face Posted June 24 Report Posted June 24 The bow is from Abeille, not pernambuco, and the frog/adjuster look of course like from a French shop like JTL or Laberte, though the bad fit could indicate that they aren't original to the stick. Or the eyelet might be too loose, hard to tell by the photo. Leaving joking beside, nearly all violins from the last 200 years or so are to a certain degree made by machines resp. with the one or other power tool, and to a certain degree hand (or maybe foot) made. Therefore this isn't a really significant consideration, though often used by some dealer's salesmen blurb.
uguntde Posted June 25 Report Posted June 25 On 6/23/2025 at 11:11 PM, Pagamini said: I thought so too. But I put some strings on it and it has a good sound. And what did you think of the bow? It doesn't seem bad to me, but I not a expert… Some simple violins have a decent sound, good enough to play some music.
NickofTurl Posted June 28 Report Posted June 28 22 minutes ago, Steelbeatinviolin said: oh... where do you get one of those from? They are readily available on Chat GPT!
Shunyata Posted June 28 Report Posted June 28 57 minutes ago, Steelbeatinviolin said: oh... where do you get one of those from? From Markneukirchen in “the usual” places.
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