ExViolino Posted May 9 Report Posted May 9 Hello! I saw this beautiful violin from tarisio. They said its a late 18th Century venetian violin without a maker. I noticed many but not all of the violins from this school didnt have clean look, almost dirty looking yet attractive Red orange varnish because of wears and scratches from the wood. Is that one of the features of Venice School? Were they also influenced by Germans because i noticed germanic features too. Also there are Only few makers i know from this school from 17th to 18th century: Gofrillers , Serafins ,Montagnana, Busan, Deconet, Peter Guarneri of Venice, Kaiser, Bellosio, Cerin, Gobetti, Degani. Could you please share the names of Makers from this school you know and usual venice school feature. Thank you very much!
Michael Darnton Posted May 10 Report Posted May 10 Tarisio.com's archive permits sorting by cities and if you go through that exercise you'll see that you are offered 70 Venetian makers. I don't know what they're thinking at the auction by their assignment.
MANFIO Posted Sunday at 01:21 PM Report Posted Sunday at 01:21 PM The corners of this violin are not orthodox, I can't relate them to any school.
Luthier Cl Guitar Posted Sunday at 03:50 PM Report Posted Sunday at 03:50 PM yes, this violin got a restoration made by Florian Zeilhofer in Germany, so they are not original
Luthier Cl Guitar Posted Sunday at 04:52 PM Report Posted Sunday at 04:52 PM an old photo for the color in sunlight - the front corner right was nearly lost
Wood Butcher Posted Monday at 06:51 AM Report Posted Monday at 06:51 AM This is very confusing now. You posted pictures from Tarisio, and people commented on those. Later you added pictures of a different violin, and now the comments about the first, look like that they are about the second violin, but are not.
ExViolino Posted Monday at 08:25 AM Author Report Posted Monday at 08:25 AM 1 hour ago, Wood Butcher said: This is very confusing now. You posted pictures from Tarisio, and people commented on those. Later you added pictures of a different violin, and now the comments about the first, look like that they are about the second violin, but are not. yeah right. im not the one who commented phtos. its the the other member. which i think does not relate to my post. 16 hours ago, Luthier Cl Guitar said: yes, this violin got a restoration made by Florian Zeilhofer in Germany, so they are not original what are the photos you shared? is that a venetian violin too?
ExViolino Posted Monday at 08:29 AM Author Report Posted Monday at 08:29 AM 15 hours ago, Luthier Cl Guitar said: an old photo for the color in sunlight - the front corner right was nearly lost hello sharing photos without context would lead to confusion. please pput context if you are sharing photos and should be related to my post. thank you
ExViolino Posted Monday at 09:57 AM Author Report Posted Monday at 09:57 AM which violin are you talking about? the one i posted or the other members comment? 20 hours ago, MANFIO said: The corners of this violin are not orthodox, I can't relate them to any school.
Luthier Cl Guitar Posted Monday at 02:25 PM Report Posted Monday at 02:25 PM i am really sorry about my behavior - i got the link to the photos you posted and don't realize that i am in-between your threads. My first steps in a forum, like an elephant, will not happen again - please forget what I posted.
MANFIO Posted Monday at 05:44 PM Report Posted Monday at 05:44 PM 7 hours ago, ExViolino said: which violin are you talking about? the one i posted or the other members comment? The first violin posted, the orange one.
David Beard Posted Wednesday at 08:57 PM Report Posted Wednesday at 08:57 PM On 5/9/2025 at 2:06 AM, ExViolino said: Hello! I saw this beautiful violin from tarisio. They said its a late 18th Century venetian violin without a maker. I noticed many but not all of the violins from this school didnt have clean look, almost dirty looking yet attractive Red orange varnish because of wears and scratches from the wood. Is that one of the features of Venice School? Were they also influenced by Germans because i noticed germanic features too. I don't believe there is a single homogenous Venice style, even during the height of the classical period. It always was diverse and international its way. As you mention, there were some Germanic influenced makers in the mix. Maybe they had some impact on the general community of makers there? A good number of classic Venice makers seems to have used methods very closely related to classical Cremona methods. Beare was the expert on Venice.
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