Help: Is this cello German?

[SoHungryCellist]

Hi everyone! 

Any thoughts on this unlabeled cello? Appreciate your help. 

 

 

 

Edited April 20 by SoHungryCellist

[FiddleDoug]

There's no chance that you can get any kind of identification from two, poor quality photos. You're going to have to provide a whole bunch of very high quality photos of every aspect of the instrument if you want any chance of identification.

[SoHungryCellist]

On 4/15/2025 at 9:00 PM, FiddleDoug said:

There's no chance that you can get any kind of identification from two, poor quality photos. You're going to have to provide a whole bunch of very high quality photos of every aspect of the instrument if you want any chance of identification.

The pictures were gone. My apologies! 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited April 20 by SoHungryCellist

[jandepora]

Is this pictures made by AI? or maybe retouched with photoshop? there are at least 4 repeated patterns exactly the same

[jacobsaunders]

1 hour ago, jandepora said:

Is this pictures made by AI? or maybe retouched with photoshop? there are at least 4 repeated patterns exactly the same

They looked like ciggarette burns to me

[matesic]

That's pretty transparently faked. The precisely identical cluster of 4 marks occurs in three locations.

[jacobsaunders]

A brutal re-touching technique to distract from something they don’t want you to see

[Blank face]

The OP posted some more detailed photos some days ago, which are now deleted for unknown reasons. I had the impression of heavy antiquing combined with a lot of real or also deliberately applied dirty cracks. All in all I had the impression of an overworked instrument to appear as something else, or possibly brandnew made to look old. So I didn’t comment on it. The actual photos might be from an online shop or an auction.

[jacobsaunders]

If I may rephrase the OP question, I think he meant “is this a jazzed up usual, or a jazzed up something else?”

[M Alpert]

Cracked up usual, look at those ribs. Not new made to look old, usual MK slightly brutally fixed IMO, check the button and edgework. Was nice maple though.

[jacobsaunders]

25 minutes ago, M Alpert said:

Cracked up usual, look at those ribs. Not new made to look old, usual MK slightly brutally fixed IMO, check the button and edgework. Was nice maple though.

yes, that's about what I thought

[SoHungryCellist]

2 hours ago, M Alpert said:

Cracked up usual, look at those ribs. Not new made to look old, usual MK slightly brutally fixed IMO, check the button and edgework. Was nice maple though.

 

10 hours ago, Blank face said:

The OP posted some more detailed photos some days ago, which are now deleted for unknown reasons. I had the impression of heavy antiquing combined with a lot of real or also deliberately applied dirty cracks. All in all I had the impression of an overworked instrument to appear as something else, or possibly brandnew made to look old. So I didn’t comment on it. The actual photos might be from an online shop or an auction.

You're right. Label was ripped off. Perhaps it was trying to be something else :))

[jandepora]

Did you use retouching software for the first images? The repetitive pattern has disappeared in the natural images you posted later. It seems that the programme randomly repeats some marks like the cigarette one Jacob said. In the first post the same mark appears 3 times and in the natural it has disappeared from 2 places.

[Blank face]

The antiquing pattern gave me a sort of Szoradi feeling, but possibly it was accidentally.

[Brian in Texas]

4 hours ago, jandepora said:

Did you use retouching software for the first images? The repetitive pattern has disappeared in the natural images you posted later. It seems that the programme randomly repeats some marks like the cigarette one Jacob said. In the first post the same mark appears 3 times and in the natural it has disappeared from 2 places.

 

I noticed that, too. Super weird. Maybe the result of some kind of AI "upscaling" algorithm.

[La Folia]

2 hours ago, Brian in Texas said:

I noticed that, too. Super weird. Maybe the result of some kind of AI "upscaling" algorithm.

No, no upscaling.  It's called "cloning", where one part of the image is copied to another in order to fix defects in the image.  It can be done better than this so it's difficult to detect.

[SoHungryCellist]

4 hours ago, La Folia said:

No, no upscaling.  It's called "cloning", where one part of the image is copied to another in order to fix defects in the image.  It can be done better than this so it's difficult to detect.

Those first two pictures were not taken by me. Not sure why it was like that.