Thoughts on bow

[Salomon]

Hello, my first post, treat me well...

I want to ask your thoughts on a violin bow. It is ironwood, I think. First I was thinking English, but no top hat mortise and the distance between end of stick and frog mortise seems long.

 

Any insights or informed opinions on origin would be welcome!

[GeorgeH]

Welcome to MN,

I think you need to post more and better-lit pictures.

This article might also help:

https://www.thestrad.com/the-british-bow-a-rough-guide-to-dating-and-development/5357.article

[Salomon]

Thank you for your reply.

I know that article. It is great, but gives me only hints. Some features points to English origin, but it is a bit confusing. I thought maybe a few people had some opinions.

It is not in my possession, it's one I am considering. I have some more pictures, though - but didn't want to fill my post with them. 

Have anyone seen markings like these?

[Salomon]

Same markings on inside of the frog...

[Guido]

The head looks F Peccatte-ish.

[Blank face]

The nickel ferrule would exclude English (according to Jacob's essay), and the frog leaves a more German impression in my eyes, also the workmanship at the head. It seems to be Ironwood/Swarzia, the frog inlay boxwood. The headplate looks like a recent replacement, so the head (or tip) could be altered, too.  Also hard to tell by the photos if all parts are going together from the start.

[fiddlecollector]

It looks like a Knopf-ish type German bow with slightly shortened nose.

[Salomon]

Agree that the headplate probably is recent. Thank you for your replies, very helpful to me!

[Blank face]

11 hours ago, Salomon said:

Thank you for your reply.

I know that article. It is great, but gives me only hints. Some features points to English origin, but it is a bit confusing. I thought maybe a few people had some opinions.

It is not in my possession, it's one I am considering. I have some more pictures, though - but didn't want to fill my post with them. 

Have anyone seen markings like these?

These are assembly marks (some other terms are existing), helping to find the matching parts at a bench with several bows in progress at the same time. Germans used them more often than other regions, but (in opposite to a common opinion) they are also present at English or French bows. Though this deeply scribed in way I found usually at Markneukirchen bows.

Matching numbers at stick and frog are pointing towards that they belong together from the start, but it's also possible that they were applied later to one or both parts to give this impression.

The more photos is always the better.