Denise R Mercer Posted December 24, 2023 Report Posted December 24, 2023 Hi my father left me a 1730 Joseph Kloz violin in very good shape in I think original case or in a very very old case. The only damage I see is that the original bridge is removed and is perfectly intact but in the wax case. Obviously I know nothing of violins.
matesic Posted December 25, 2023 Report Posted December 25, 2023 Before anyone can comment you'll need to upload some pictures, preferably as indicated here And do be prepared for some frank and well-informed opinions. Statistically your violin is most unlikely to be what the label purports it to be.
Gtone Posted December 25, 2023 Report Posted December 25, 2023 10 minutes ago, matesic said: Before anyone can comment you'll need to upload some pictures, preferably as indicated here And do be prepared for some frank and well-informed opinions. Statistically your violin is most unlikely to be what the label purports it to be. Very well put welcome Denise, I agree with Matesic but..... I do hope you are correct.
Denise R Mercer Posted December 25, 2023 Author Report Posted December 25, 2023 6 hours ago, Gtone said: Very well put welcome Denise, I agree with Matesic but..... I do hope you are correct. Well I’m pretty confident the label is correct as my dad states it came over on o boat to the United States with a distant relative long ago?
germain Posted December 25, 2023 Report Posted December 25, 2023 My first full size violin as a student was labeled Joseph Klotz Mittenwalde 173?. Needless to say I thought it were real but as I became more educated I realized they had even misspelled the town where the instrument was supposedly made- Mittenwald. There are tenths of thousands 100 + years old factory made mass produced violins bearing the Klotz or Steiner label.
baroquecello Posted December 25, 2023 Report Posted December 25, 2023 4 hours ago, Denise R Mercer said: Well I’m pretty confident the label is correct as my dad states it came over on o boat to the United States with a distant relative long ago? Joseph Klotz I was born in 1743, so can't have made a violin in 1730. In past centuries, it was very normal to glue fake labels into violins (quite possibly it still is more normal than we'd like to think). Without any further info, I'd say you have a 90 % chance that it is a saxon violin from 1850~1900.
germain Posted December 25, 2023 Report Posted December 25, 2023 Luckily here there are experts who will be able to identify a real one...
Denise R Mercer Posted December 25, 2023 Author Report Posted December 25, 2023 21 minutes ago, germain said: My first full size violin as a student was labeled Joseph Klotz Mittenwalde 173?. Needless to say I thought it were real but as I became more educated I realized they had even misspelled the town where the instrument was supposedly made- Mittenwald. There are tenths of thousands 100 + years old factory made mass produced violins bearing the Klotz or Steiner label.
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