keyboardclass Posted October 8, 2023 Report Posted October 8, 2023 Is the below true? What does he mean by nut? It's from Old Violins and Violin Lore by Rev H R Haweis (you can find it at archive.org).
Andreas Preuss Posted October 8, 2023 Report Posted October 8, 2023 I think the author is referring to the holes found sometimes in (indeed) old cellos and small double basses which were used in church processions. The hole(s) were intended to fix a thread to hold the I instrument around the neck of the player while walking to have both hands free for playing. However the author is wrong in saying that you find this feature on violins (violas). The nut (or button) on the back is the protruding part where the neck rests on.
MMarsden Posted October 8, 2023 Report Posted October 8, 2023 Maybe he's misinterpreting the purpose of the locating pins?
Shelbow Posted October 8, 2023 Report Posted October 8, 2023 39 minutes ago, Andreas Preuss said: I think the author is referring to the holes found sometimes in (indeed) old cellos and small double basses which were used in church processions. The hole(s) were intended to fix a thread to hold the I instrument around the neck of the player while walking to have both hands free for playing. However the author is wrong in saying that you find this feature on violins (violas). The nut (or button) on the back is the protruding part where the neck rests on. I did actually have a violin once that did have this plugged hole on the back and was told that it was likely for some kind of marching procession function. I don't have a picture unfortunately but perhaps some violins did have this for whatever reason.
keyboardclass Posted October 8, 2023 Author Report Posted October 8, 2023 Thanks. So for nut read button.
Shelbow Posted October 8, 2023 Report Posted October 8, 2023 I found a picture, there is a lower hole a bit like a pin and then another one above. Not quite like as the author states.
keyboardclass Posted October 8, 2023 Author Report Posted October 8, 2023 That's helpful - more where I thought it would be. 'a few inches below the nut' doesn't make sense.
Andreas Preuss Posted October 8, 2023 Report Posted October 8, 2023 3 hours ago, Shelbow said: I found a picture, there is a lower hole a bit like a pin and then another one above. Not quite like as the author states. Thanks for the picture. Interesting.
Andreas Preuss Posted October 8, 2023 Report Posted October 8, 2023 4 hours ago, MMarsden said: Maybe he's misinterpreting the purpose of the locating pins? ‘A few inches below the nut’ is definitely not where you find location pins.
MMarsden Posted October 8, 2023 Report Posted October 8, 2023 9 minutes ago, Andreas Preuss said: ‘A few inches below the nut’ is definitely not where you find location pins. And he was describing violins, not cellos. We both tried to meet the author halfway.
Wood Butcher Posted October 8, 2023 Report Posted October 8, 2023 Bear in mind, a lot of old books were written by men, whose only qualification was being Victorian, and having gone to the right sort of schools. Consequently, what is written in them, is a wide range between strongly held personal opinions based on nothing, utter nonsense, and vaguely correct concepts. To be fair to them, back in the day, there wasn't a huge amount of reference material available. What we have now, and for free, would be beyond their wildest dreams.
jacobsaunders Posted October 8, 2023 Report Posted October 8, 2023 7 hours ago, Shelbow said: I found a picture, there is a lower hole a bit like a pin and then another one above. Not quite like as the author states. Looks like a legendary bunged up worm hole to me
Altgeiger Posted October 8, 2023 Report Posted October 8, 2023 Nicely centered, though. Nice work, worm!
jacobsaunders Posted October 8, 2023 Report Posted October 8, 2023 1 hour ago, Altgeiger said: Nicely centered, though. Nice work, worm! That's what’s legendary about it
Shelbow Posted October 8, 2023 Report Posted October 8, 2023 3 hours ago, jacobsaunders said: Looks like a legendary bunged up worm hole to me I don't think so in this case. No other worm trace from what I recall. But who knows what people do to instruments when they are bored.
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