Roger Hargrave Posted October 1 Author Report Share Posted October 1 17 hours ago, David Rosales said: Ha! Who can forget Roger's classic tales like, "Mr. Happy" or "Little Miss Bossy"? Great books ,all of them, but that typo is not down to me I have NEvER written my mame with an -ea- I tried to change it but it isn't working Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GerardM Posted October 1 Report Share Posted October 1 15 hours ago, Urban Luthier said: I've read all five of Roger's novels. (Including the naughty bits). Simply put, the entire set is a fantastic read. No spoilers from me. I will say Roger is a fine story teller - I read a couple in a single sitting. I think Angel Eyes part B is my favourite (Charles Ruffello is my favourite character in the set!) Highly recommended. And yes I will purchase them! ePub may the most flexible way to go. Urban where did you purchase these books? All I can find is mr men and Of course Rogers web site with the serious luthier information. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeC Posted October 1 Report Share Posted October 1 4 hours ago, Roger Hargrave said: Go ahead ut it might take a while to answer, even if Ican, Hi Roger Thanks for the reply, I feel bad about distracting from the discussion of the novels but I don't see you here very often and don't want to miss the opportunity to ask. My question is regarding the neck finish used by the Hill's If you have time, take a look at this old discussion, It's only two pages so it won't take long to read through it. And here's two pictures of the neck. I like the deep yellowish color. Do you have any knowledge of what they used on necks? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urban Luthier Posted October 1 Report Share Posted October 1 46 minutes ago, GerardM said: Urban where did you purchase these books? All I can find is mr men and Of course Rogers web site with the serious luthier information. Sorry should have mentioned that Roger asked a couple of us here, whom he has worked with before, to read through early versions of his books. they really are fine stories - not really about violin making per say, but an interlinked set of characters and a narrative that binds them together - set within the world of violin making and dealing. More historical fiction where the bits about lutherie are very accurate! A fantastic read! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter K-G Posted October 1 Report Share Posted October 1 8 hours ago, Roger Hargrave said: Great books ,all of them, but that typo is not down to me I have NEvER written my mame with an -ea- I tried to change it but it isn't working If you go to your first post, there should be three dots in the upper right corner. Click and an Edit link should appear, edit should bring up the title for editing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Hargrave Posted October 2 Author Report Share Posted October 2 On 9/30/2023 at 11:36 AM, Blank face said: On a very serious note, why don't you produce it as an E-book and sell it on Amazon or Ibooks, or even as paid download at your website? The costs would be next to nihil, and a tool like Bookcreator allows even to integrate illustrations, sound files or videos. All of the bits I own the copyright on are free to down load on my web site. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LCF Posted October 2 Report Share Posted October 2 Dear Roger, as a long time lurker here and avid reader of everything you have previously written and released I can only suggest that there is no such thing as too many stories about (warning! old chestnut SaxonViolinse and I would love to read your new works. I know little about publishing having only ever written various articles which neither earned a penny but from what you're describing I hope you have a good literary agent with maybe even the possibility of there being film rights to be transacted. There does seem to be a wider interest in the goings on in the violin " industry" --- so much money involved, glamorous people, greed, mythology, musicians and con-men. A hearty mix. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Hargrave Posted October 2 Author Report Share Posted October 2 On 10/1/2023 at 2:17 PM, MikeC said: Hi Roger Thanks for the reply, I feel bad about distracting from the discussion of the novels but I don't see you here very often and don't want to miss the opportunity to ask. My question is regarding the neck finish used by the Hill's If you have time, take a look at this old discussion, It's only two pages so it won't take long to read through it. And here's two pictures of the neck. I like the deep yellowish color. Do you have any knowledge of what they used on necks? The Hills did have several stains that were very similar to the Padding ground colour, but mostly we used W&N raw sienna first followed by their burnt umber. These were water colours. You need a lot of practice to get the ballance right, it is easy to overdo the burnt umber. Finally we finished with boiled inseed with a small anount of driers added. What you do not want, is have a neck colour that is too grell and takes away from a good vanish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Hargrave Posted October 2 Author Report Share Posted October 2 On 9/30/2023 at 9:55 PM, Bill Yacey said: Perhaps you could take a deposit for book sales, and figure out what a first printing price would be. i will let you know price and dates soon but i want to keeep cost to a minimum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Hargrave Posted October 2 Author Report Share Posted October 2 On 9/29/2023 at 7:01 AM, spruce or pine said: Dear Mr. Hargrave, I would absolutely love to read your novels, so count me in for at least one copy of each. But a word of advice from someone who has been there: do it for love, not money. My name is Craig Danner, and I wrote literary fiction full time for 20 years. I published my first novel, Himalayan Dhaba, in 2000. After working on it for close to 10 years, my agent held an auction which failed to find a buyer. Undaunted, I created Crispin/Hammer Publishing and printed 5,000 copies in hardback. It became a surprise bestseller with independent booksellers, was a Booksense 76 pick, and won the Pacific Northwest Book Award for 2001. Big New York publishers started calling, and a new agent held a new auction and reprint rights sold for a solid six figure advance. It was like winning the lottery! But Penguin had other books to promote, and mine didn't sell out its advance. It took me seven years to write the next novel, and in that time my editor retired, and no one else at the publisher remembered me. I published The Fires of Edgarville myself, and sold a couple thousand copies. I kept writing, because I absolutely love writing and the writing process. My third novel took three years (getting faster!) and I didn't even try to find another publisher, just did it myself again. I spent 20 years writing and publishing full time, and by most writers' standards I did very well. I loved spending my days writing, and I am incredibly proud of my three novels. But even with a huge advance on my first book, divide six figures by 20 years and it doesn't come out to much of an income. Good thing I had a working spouse and a second career. I'm an introvert, which is a good thing both for writing and for building violins (which is what I'm now doing full time). Writing and building are a lot of fun, and very satisfying. Selling, though... not so much! Self-promotion: my worst nightmare! And you need to do both to make it profitable. Please, Mr. Hargrave, publish your novels! Do it because you obviously love to write, and do it because I would love to read them. But don't do it for money. PM me if you would like to discuss this further. All the best! Craig Danner Crispin/Hammer Violins I have never written for money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philippa Posted October 2 Report Share Posted October 2 will buy ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blank face Posted October 2 Report Share Posted October 2 6 hours ago, Roger Hargrave said: All of the bits I own the copyright on are free to down load on my web site. That's very appreciated and of course I downloaded a lot there, couldn't be more grateful. I just thought it could be harder to sell a printed copy when it's for free at your website. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rue Posted October 2 Report Share Posted October 2 I am confused (nothing new there)... (Charles) Roger Hargreaves was an author of children's books. Roger (Graham) Hargrave...violin maker extraordinaire! Roger Hargreave...doesn’t exist... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry F Posted October 2 Report Share Posted October 2 On 9/30/2023 at 7:26 AM, Davide Sora said: I happened to read some fictional stories about luthiers, instruments, etc. and I have to say that they never wowed me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Norfleet Posted October 2 Report Share Posted October 2 15 minutes ago, Rue said: Roger Hargreave...doesn’t exist... But we now have evidence that he does…. Provenance is being established! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry F Posted October 2 Report Share Posted October 2 On 9/30/2023 at 2:38 AM, Roger Hargrave said: . And you are right. I love doing it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Violadamore Posted October 2 Report Share Posted October 2 3 hours ago, Rue said: I am confused (nothing new there)... (Charles) Roger Hargreaves was an author of children's books. Roger (Graham) Hargrave...violin maker extraordinaire! Roger Hargreave...doesn’t exist... I suspect that AI ("autocorrect") was involved. 2 hours ago, Mark Norfleet said: But we now have evidence that he does…. Provenance is being established! "Circle of Roger Hargrave"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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