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Rodani47

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Hello everyone, I am beginner in this beautiful craft and I am getting ready to varnish my first instrument. I mixed a simple spirit varnish containing mastic, benzoe, and shellac with 96% Ethyl alcohol. I planned to brush it on to the instrument, and I wondered how toxic is this mixture (fumes)? I don’t own a respiratory protection mask at the moment. Is it smart to continue and varnish the instrument without any protection?

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Ethyl alcohol is quite safe to use without a respirator. Methyl on the other hand is really quite dangerous. If you are using 96% ethyl it would be good to know what the other 4% is. It may simply be water due to normal hydroscopic tendency of the alcohol or it could be “denatured” by the addition of methyl alcohol to render it unfit for drinking. Either one is probably quite safe but it would be good to know and I would not use the denatured stuff in a closed closet.

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Roughly 96% ethanol and 4% water is as close as you can get to pure ethanol, by simple distillation, because ethanol and water mixtures form an "azeotrope"  that boils at a temperature lower than the boiling point of either substance.  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Azeotrope.  There's no advantage, in making varnish, to spending the extra money for anhydrous ethanol (a laboratory reagent).  :)

 

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11 hours ago, Rodani47 said:

I mixed a simple spirit varnish containing mastic, benzoe, and shellac with 96% Ethyl alcohol. I planned to brush it on to the instrument, and I wondered how toxic is this mixture (fumes)? I don’t own a respiratory protection mask at the moment. Is it smart to continue and varnish the instrument without any protection?

Unlike methanol, short-term excessive exposure to ethanol probably isn't going to screw you up permanently. Don't college students do this all the time, and still graduate? :D

Living in a college town, here's what I consider to be the most common signs of overexposure to Ethanol: Getting either vastly more "teddybear like", or vastly meaner and confrontational. Kinda depends on the underlying personality revealed when inhibitions are reduced.
One would seem to be less harmful than the other.

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11 hours ago, David Burgess said:

Unlike methanol, short-term excessive exposure to ethanol probably isn't going to screw you up permanently. Don't college students do this all the time, and still graduate? :D

Living in a college town, here's what I consider to be the most common signs of overexposure to Ethanol: Getting either vastly more "teddybear like", or vastly meaner and confrontational. Kinda depends on the underlying personality revealed when inhibitions are reduced.
One would seem to be less harmful than the other.

Ain't that the truth! I've been around both. The mean ones can get really nasty!

I prefer ethanol diluted to about 50% and aged in oak.  In moderation of course.  

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1 hour ago, MikeC said:

I prefer ethanol diluted to about 50% and aged in oak. 

I found that new charred oak barrels and ethanol distilled from corn mash works best. Aged at least 12 years of course!

1 hour ago, MikeC said:

In moderation of course.

Here we must agree to disagree.

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On 9/21/2023 at 4:23 PM, Rodani47 said:

Hello everyone, I am beginner in this beautiful craft and I am getting ready to varnish my first instrument. I mixed a simple spirit varnish containing mastic, benzoe, and shellac with 96% Ethyl alcohol. I planned to brush it on to the instrument, and I wondered how toxic is this mixture (fumes)? I don’t own a respiratory protection mask at the moment. Is it smart to continue and varnish the instrument without any protection?

Thank you for taking the time to reply.

Hi, will you share the picture of it? After completing... :)

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