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46 minutes ago, reguz said:

With the sound post given the fix condition you may hold that structural part in any direction when you make your FEA calculations the result is always correct. 

Not if the premise is incorrect.

46 minutes ago, reguz said:

So, you cannot do with the end blocks since they are fixed to each other. They do not move in relation to each other.

That is also incorrect.

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37 minutes ago, reguz said:

David I refere to what scientist do, Gough is one off them

Hah! I'll bet I've spent more time talking with Gough than you have. :lol:
Same with most of the other scientists involved in violin research. :P

"A man's got to know his limitations." Let's see, was it Abraham Lincoln, Thomas Jefferson, Churchill, or Johnny Appleseed who said that? :lol:

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I just realized that, just like some politicians, who believe that all publicity is good, a person can get his name mentioned many times on this forum, whether his contributions are useful, or frivolous. Maybe this thread should go on forever. Maybe everyone should get their name mentioned many times. I’ll start.

Burgess, Zygmuntowicz, Noon, Schmidt, … you know… all the famous violin makers.

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1 hour ago, David Burgess said:

Hah! I'll bet I've spent more time talking with Gough than you have. :lol:
Same with most of the other scientists involved in violin research. :P

"A man's got to know his limitations." Let's see, was it Abraham Lincoln, Thomas Jefferson, Churchill, or Johnny Appleseed who said that? :lol:

No, it was a man who didn't talk Gough.  :ph34r:  :lol:

 

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3 hours ago, violins88 said:

I just realized that, just like some politicians, who believe that all publicity is good, a person can get his name mentioned many times on this forum, whether his contributions are useful, or frivolous. Maybe this thread should go on forever. Maybe everyone should get their name mentioned many times. I’ll start.

Burgess, Zygmuntowicz, Noon, Schmidt, … you know… all the famous violin makers.

:lol: I know very little about Schmidt, other than he has made some danged good knives. My favorite so far. Used his "bridge knife" earlier today to cut some purfling groove corners. :)

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13 hours ago, Peter K-G said:

That's a bold statement

I'm only talking about the actual arching shape, not graduation or anything else.

Apart from making the job easier it seems obvious to me that knowing exactly what you are doing using templates is the ability assess what is what when making successive instruments and whether or not it is important tonally.

What points of reference do you have when assessing arching? Templates provide a comprehensive record. As I've said I think the top and back long arch profiles are probably more significant than the cross arch ones. But the cross-arch templates make arching much easier.

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5 hours ago, David Burgess said:

:lol: I know very little about Schmidt, other than he has made some danged good knives. My favorite so far. Used his "bridge knife" earlier today to cut some purfling groove corners. :)

You talk about other a lot but have nothing to say yourselves. That is bad real bad,

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5 hours ago, Dennis J said:

I'm only talking about the actual arching shape, not graduation or anything else.

Apart from making the job easier it seems obvious to me that knowing exactly what you are doing using templates is the ability assess what is what when making successive instruments and whether or not it is important tonally.

What points of reference do you have when assessing arching? Templates provide a comprehensive record. As I've said I think the top and back long arch profiles are probably more significant than the cross arch ones. But the cross-arch templates make arching much easier.

With template making an instrument you must know haow the came about, Do you. if not you know nothing

 

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6 hours ago, reguz said:

You talk about other a lot but have nothing to say yourselves. That is bad real bad,

 

5 hours ago, reguz said:

With template making an instrument you must know haow the came about, Do you. if not you know nothing

"And just like that, Reguz applies his quadruple arm-bar double submission hold. Whatever will Dennis and Dave do? Beg for mercy? They are in quite a pickle indeed!"  :lol::lol::lol:

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5 hours ago, David Burgess said:

 

"And just like that, Reguz applies his quadruple arm-bar double submission hold. Whatever will Dennis and Dave do? Beg for mercy? They are in quite a pickle indeed!"  :lol::lol::lol:

Counter with a certain classic Greco-Roman torsion hold, if you can find anything to grab.....  :ph34r:  Observe below.  :lol:

8 hours ago, reguz said:

.................you know nothing

 

Finally, a subject you're an expert on!   :P partytime.gif.c15fd34a703e65bd51b16dfd30fd3f5e.gif  :P

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You have to admire the tenacity.

As soon as I saw the first post, I knew where things would be heading, as did many others. Somehow, people get sucked in, and it’s hard to get off the merry go round.

In a year or so, we can all do it again :mellow:

However, if you happen to read this Mr Zuger, it might be more appropriate to expound your strongly held theories in the contemporary makers section. There, people can choose whether to engage in a discussion, or not, rather than trying to bait everyone en masse.

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8 hours ago, reguz said:

You talk about other a lot but have nothing to say yourselves. That is bad real bad,

I'd say Mr. Burgess' achievements speak for themselves and his methods, whatever they are, are certainly successful and consequently pretty much beyond criticism (not to be confused with evaluation and discussion).  A good guy to learn from whatever level we're at if you're able to winkle something out of him.

8 hours ago, reguz said:

With template making an instrument you must know haow the came about, Do you. if not you know nothing

The personal satisfaction of tonal and artistic success (financial aside) speaks for itself regardless.  Don't you agree?

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32 minutes ago, Dr. Mark said:

I'd say Mr. Burgess' achievements speak for themselves and his methods, whatever they are, are certainly successful and consequently pretty much beyond criticism (not to be confused with evaluation and discussion).  A good guy to learn from whatever level we're at if you're able to winkle something out of him.

The personal satisfaction of tonal and artistic success (financial aside) speaks for itself regardless.  Don't you agree?

No, no, no!  You're still trying to use logic and reason.  We're past that point!  "Cry 'Havoc!", and let slip the dogs of satire!  " à la lanterne!",  "Strads without a lifetime of slavery!!", all that jazz.  Grab a torch and a pitchfork, already.  :ph34r:  sarcasm.gif.4d09b1c4b585dff9669866270b520412.gif  ROFL.gif.381686c546d474bcd1629409956a7504.gif

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Hey all...  I thank you all (most) for keeping responses within reasonable bounds, but I ametting tired of reviewing this thread multi times a day...  It's gone quite "circular". When things calm down (or heaven forbid heat up), I plan to lock the thread.  It will still be available should anyone wish to access it, but it will never again show up for review.

Best!

Jeffrey

( caught me VdA!  :) )

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