Shelbow Posted July 8, 2024 Author Report Posted July 8, 2024 Just now, Blank face said: So wouldn’t it be enough that you show a confirmation by Tarisio that they are the copyright owner and the individual is making false claims? At least that’s also affecting their own business. YouTube is a commercial company trying to get away with as less efforts as possible, similar to other social media channels. That’s quite annoying in many regards. I have submitted that in my counterclaim yes, so we shall see what they say. But as I said unfortunately luck is not something I seem to have currently and YouTube have not been very helpful to me. We shall have to see what happens. Unfortunately to challenge it they also force you to disclose your full address and contact details to the claimant, which has been a massive issue for stalking and doxing in the US. YouTube simply don't care about people, only money.
Blank face Posted July 8, 2024 Report Posted July 8, 2024 30 minutes ago, Shelbow said: I have submitted that in my counterclaim yes, so we shall see what they say. But as I said unfortunately luck is not something I seem to have currently and YouTube have not been very helpful to me. We shall have to see what happens. Unfortunately to challenge it they also force you to disclose your full address and contact details to the claimant, which has been a massive issue for stalking and doxing in the US. YouTube simply don't care about people, only money. It’s always good to have a “bureau letterbox” address and a second/third email and phone number for such cases in the internet. Good luck! Maybe the person will loose the interest after a while.
Shelbow Posted July 8, 2024 Author Report Posted July 8, 2024 11 minutes ago, Blank face said: It’s always good to have a “bureau letterbox” address and a second/third email and phone number for such cases in the internet. Good luck! Maybe the person will loose the interest after a while. Lets see what occurs
Sammyo Posted July 8, 2024 Report Posted July 8, 2024 Good luck. If it would help to run your arguments past someone, feel free to drop me a PM.
Shelbow Posted July 8, 2024 Author Report Posted July 8, 2024 4 minutes ago, Sammyo said: Good luck. If it would help to run your arguments past someone, feel free to drop me a PM. Cheers I appreciate it
Dave Slight Posted July 8, 2024 Report Posted July 8, 2024 Presumably, this other person is trying to produce their own videos, on the same subject. Do you think this is an attempt to remove you as competition, or just a malicious act, driven by boredom?
Shelbow Posted July 8, 2024 Author Report Posted July 8, 2024 5 minutes ago, Dave Slight said: Presumably, this other person is trying to produce their own videos, on the same subject. Do you think this is an attempt to remove you as competition, or just a malicious act, driven by boredom? They seem to have a YouTube channel, but I don't think it's particularly active. At first I thought this was someone that had bought a violin that I showed in one of my videos and wanted it removed. So after the first strike I emailed them really politely and asked them why they had submitted that claim and told them that if it was the case that an instrument they had now bought was in the video I would be happy to delete it, but they did not respond. Now having had a second strike I can only assume it is entirely malicious and I honestly don't know the motivation. The person filing the claim is not known to me.
Shelbow Posted July 8, 2024 Author Report Posted July 8, 2024 Already they are rejecting my counterclaims. As I said a complete waste of time trying to deal with anyone I just give up.
henrypeacham Posted July 9, 2024 Report Posted July 9, 2024 16 hours ago, Dave Slight said: Presumably, this other person is trying to produce their own videos, on the same subject. Do you think this is an attempt to remove you as competition, or just a malicious act, driven by boredom? With Amati, all bidding and final result history disappear at the end of the auction as many buyers wish to keep private the amount paid for purchases. They may intend to offer their items for sale down the line so videos of instruments previously offered at auction actually subverts that business. Some folks may have cause to be upset at video postings which often reveal the hang tag with estimate when the auction house itself deletes all such information post auction. One might presume that a channel uploading videos of items offered at auction not personally owned by the posting individual is simply providing a friendly public service. However, there would seem to be a contingent that believes otherwise as demonstrated in the action taken.
Shelbow Posted July 9, 2024 Author Report Posted July 9, 2024 For sure... Well everything is just AI monitored now so they just automatically reject my counter claims even when I answer the questions exactly as they state them so nothing that I can do. Only the big channels can bypass this because their followers cause YouTube trouble. Nothing a small fry like me can do.
Sammyo Posted July 9, 2024 Report Posted July 9, 2024 The fact that some people might want to keep previous auction estimates a secret, they are not confidential nor would a video showing the "hang tag" infringe any IP rights, would it? Shelbow, presumably there is an appeal process? Again, if you would like a second pair of eyes or anything, please feel free to drop me a line.
Shelbow Posted July 9, 2024 Author Report Posted July 9, 2024 Yes I have appealed and stated my reasons and they just keep rejecting it so I am all out of options.
Dave Slight Posted July 9, 2024 Report Posted July 9, 2024 7 hours ago, henrypeacham said: With Amati, all bidding and final result history disappear at the end of the auction as many buyers wish to keep private the amount paid for purchases. They may intend to offer their items for sale down the line so videos of instruments previously offered at auction actually subverts that business. Some folks may have cause to be upset at video postings which often reveal the hang tag with estimate when the auction house itself deletes all such information post auction. One might presume that a channel uploading videos of items offered at auction not personally owned by the posting individual is simply providing a friendly public service. However, there would seem to be a contingent that believes otherwise as demonstrated in the action taken. It used to be the case that sales prices were published after the auctions, so they were a matter of public record. This applied to most of the big auctioneers, Sotheby’s etc. I can understand why now the prices are taken down, but we do not know the reason for this YouTubers objection to Shelbow. It could be for something else, or no valid reason at all.
Shelbow Posted July 16, 2024 Author Report Posted July 16, 2024 (UK) BROMPTON'S - July 26th (2024) - Violins and Bows etc - https://www.bromptons.co/auction/16th-26th-july-2024/list/page-1.html?s=0.9
jamesbuchanan Posted July 29, 2024 Report Posted July 29, 2024 That all sounds a bit rubbish @Shelbow. Really sorry to hear that you are having these issues. Please feel free to continue going through our auctions. I enjoy it when you turn up - it is oddly reassuring. I would also say that you have never been vicious in your videos about us, despite numerous opportunities, for which I am endlessly grateful. Look after yourself and see you at the next one. James
Shelbow Posted July 29, 2024 Author Report Posted July 29, 2024 32 minutes ago, jamesbuchanan said: That all sounds a bit rubbish @Shelbow. Really sorry to hear that you are having these issues. Please feel free to continue going through our auctions. I enjoy it when you turn up - it is oddly reassuring. I would also say that you have never been vicious in your videos about us, despite numerous opportunities, for which I am endlessly grateful. Look after yourself and see you at the next one. James Thanks James, I appreciate the support. I shall try to keep going and also create some different kinds of content for the future. Watch this space...
match Posted July 29, 2024 Report Posted July 29, 2024 Yes, Shelbow, keep it up. Especially your short, hand-shot videos during the viewings are really informative. Also, thumbs up for James, I like the straightforward and simple process at Amati from the EU, both selling and buying (even though the Brexiteers have really done a number). Maybe there will be more valuation days on the continent again someday.
jamesbuchanan Posted July 30, 2024 Report Posted July 30, 2024 11 hours ago, match said: Maybe there will be more valuation days on the continent again someday. I hope so (and thank you!)
Shelbow Posted August 6, 2024 Author Report Posted August 6, 2024 Just did a big update of the list. September will be busy.
elise2000 Posted August 11, 2024 Report Posted August 11, 2024 On 8/6/2024 at 9:19 PM, Shelbow said: Just did a big update of the list. September will be busy. One small typo- The Amati makers sale is on 4 sept not 25 thanks for all the updates
Shelbow Posted August 11, 2024 Author Report Posted August 11, 2024 3 hours ago, elise2000 said: One small typo- The Amati makers sale is on 4 sept not 25 thanks for all the updates Good spot many thanks, I must have done a copy and paste job on that one
David Alex Tricot Posted August 17, 2024 Report Posted August 17, 2024 T2 is on going till next week. I think I have not seen it listed here.
Shelbow Posted August 17, 2024 Author Report Posted August 17, 2024 4 hours ago, David Alex T. said: T2 is on going till next week. I think I have not seen it listed here. T2 is listed on the August section for sure
Shelbow Posted August 24, 2024 Author Report Posted August 24, 2024 Amati makers sale is up https://app.amati.com/en/auction/1115-the-makers-sale-4th-september
Shelbow Posted August 24, 2024 Author Report Posted August 24, 2024 All the Gardiner auctions are up: (UK) GARDINER HOULGATE- September 3rd (2024)- Guitars -https://auctions.gardinerhoulgate.co.uk/catalogue/66406ad11194142c1ed8af2bd6b23cd0/63b778f7668dabe928d3800924a99077/the-guitar-auction-four-day-sale/ (UK) GARDINER HOULGATE- September 4th (2024)- Guitars - https://auctions.gardinerhoulgate.co.uk/catalogue/66406ad11194142c1ed8af2bd6b23cd0/aa3256dfaa581b83dd9a740d7ec8e30d/the-guitar-auction-four-day-sale/ (UK) GARDINER HOULGATE- September 5th (2024)- Amps and bits - https://auctions.gardinerhoulgate.co.uk/catalogue/66406ad11194142c1ed8af2bd6b23cd0/3dfe96b3d8514009372b34ed949e473e/the-guitar-auction-four-day-sale/ (UK) GARDINER HOULGATE- September 6th (2024)- Antique Guitars - https://auctions.gardinerhoulgate.co.uk/catalogue/66406ad11194142c1ed8af2bd6b23cd0/bf0761984d271d5c0c6b7fc7cecee274/the-guitar-auction-four-day-sale/ (UK) GARDINER HOULGATE- September 6th (2024)- Musical Instruments - https://auctions.gardinerhoulgate.co.uk/catalogue/4e8556a51aaa80dc0007775b70777a3d/63b778f7668dabe928d3800924a99077/musical-instruments/
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