Tyrolean cello?

[WYoung]

Yellow-gold cello LOB 74.5; 31.5 upper; 21.3 mid; 41.6 lower. Proportions a little like the Feuerman/ de Munck, except longer back. So the pattern looks extremely narrow waisted. The only place I think I have seen this color is on Tyrolean or  German violins. It has a naive hand-drawn label saying Giovanni Dollenz Trieste 1850. Ideas much appreciated. Thank you in advance...  (the neck has to be repaired, not attached in the pictures)

 

Edited June 22, 2023 by WYoung

[baroquecello]

The pictures are not anywhere near good enough, but to me it looks like a rather new cello, antiqued and abused. The scroll in particular looks rather chinese to me. 

[jacobsaunders]

Your pictures aren’t adequate for an ID thread. One can only see that it has a strange outline. I don’t know of anyone who made Celli in Tyrol

 

 

[Blank face]

Has the scroll really such a different color as it appears at the photos? The body looks somehow stripped and revarnished/antiqued.

[WYoung]

Thank you for comments so far.

The cello is not in my possession yet... and there are no photos taken exactly straight on, unfortunately. Excellent point about the color of the scroll versus the body. If the body was partially taken down, and the scroll is the true original color, then it would likely be German and my question about Tyrolean origin not an issue. 

If the ground was yellow and the original effect was a nut-brown, as in pic below, maybe it was Saxon.

However the pattern, which is a sort of elongated de Munck, might tell something - if there was a German maker who tried that...

[jacobsaunders]

2 hours ago, WYoung said:

Thank you for comments so far.

The cello is not in my possession yet... and there are no photos taken exactly straight on, unfortunately. Excellent point about the color of the scroll versus the body. If the body was partially taken down, and the scroll is the true original color, then it would likely be German and my question about Tyrolean origin not an issue. 

If the ground was yellow and the original effect was a nut-brown, as in pic below, maybe it was Saxon.

However the pattern, which is a sort of elongated de Munck, might tell something - if there was a German maker who tried that...

The more pertinent question would be if the scroll is original to the body

[WYoung]

The scroll is not spliced, and the neck looks as if it belongs...Pic below (neck not actually attached yet.) So the original finish must have been a nut brown over a yellow ground.

I still hope to get some light on the unusual pattern of the cello.