philippa Posted January 31 Report Share Posted January 31 hello, i might go and have a look at this one, do you think it is worth it?- the photos do not really show anything, but perhaps i could save my time if you say it is not worth it going.. https://www.dorotheum.com/de/l/8407645/# i also got a photo of the damage.. length seems to be 36 cm.. thank you very much Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shelbow Posted January 31 Report Share Posted January 31 7 minutes ago, philippa said: hello, i might go and have a look at this one, do you think it is worth it?- the photos do not really show anything, but perhaps i could save my time if you say it is not worth it going.. https://www.dorotheum.com/de/l/8407645/# i also got a photo of the damage.. length seems to be 36 cm.. thank you very much Your link doesn't seem to work, is this a private sale item rather than one of their auction lots? I can't find it searching the site. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philippa Posted January 31 Author Report Share Posted January 31 Just now, Shelbow said: Your link doesn't seem to work, is this a private sale item rather than one of their auction lots? I can't find it searching the site. https://www.dorotheum.com/de/l/8407645/ sorry, this should work Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shelbow Posted January 31 Report Share Posted January 31 Those photos are terrible. You should ask them to take better ones in good light as they have done with the damage photo. Already the instrument looks way different to what I expected with that one photo compared to the ones online. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shelbow Posted January 31 Report Share Posted January 31 Posting these on behalf of the OP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blank face Posted January 31 Report Share Posted January 31 An old Dutch master violin ca 1800???? Needs a lot of fantasy to detect it there, but as you say, the photos are terrible. What looks somehow interesting is the wide purfling, maybe a more close up photo could tell if it's whalebone. Thre's also a stripe or shadow at the left bottom C bout, could it be a soundpost crack? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shelbow Posted January 31 Report Share Posted January 31 42 minutes ago, Blank face said: An old Dutch master violin ca 1800???? Needs a lot of fantasy to detect it there, but as you say, the photos are terrible. What looks somehow interesting is the wide purfling, maybe a more close up photo could tell if it's whalebone. Thre's also a stripe or shadow at the left bottom C bout, could it be a soundpost crack? This is exactly what I said to the OP in a message, that I wonder if it's whalebone purfling otherwise I don't really understand the attribution. Hard to see what's going on at the back. It's all very unclear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blank face Posted January 31 Report Share Posted January 31 55 minutes ago, Shelbow said: It's all very unclear…. ….and could be also just Bohemian in a desolate state. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shelbow Posted January 31 Report Share Posted January 31 15 minutes ago, Blank face said: ….and could be also just Bohemian in a desolate state. The pictures on the website are so bad I thought it was straight up the usual at first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mathieu valde Posted January 31 Report Share Posted January 31 Dorotheum is 100% not right place to buy smth. Attributions are not correct, instruments not always correctly described, overpriced and actually it is a pawn shop... OP instrument described as leicht reparturbedürftig. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blank face Posted January 31 Report Share Posted January 31 39 minutes ago, Shelbow said: The pictures on the website are so bad I thought it was straight up the usual at first. As I did. But I was afraid that they would sue me if I'd write this straight away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shelbow Posted January 31 Report Share Posted January 31 1 hour ago, Blank face said: As I did. But I was afraid that they would sue me if I'd write this straight away. It's OK they can sue me instead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wood Butcher Posted January 31 Report Share Posted January 31 Frankly, this seems a terrible idea. You really need to go to a shop, where you can try things first, have a trial period, some guarantees etc. Playing the auction crap minefield, with no knowledge about how auctions work, is going to lead to burnt fingers, an empty bank balance, and a shit violin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blank face Posted February 1 Report Share Posted February 1 14 hours ago, Shelbow said: It's OK they can sue me instead. That’s a nice and altruistic attitude. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacobsaunders Posted February 1 Report Share Posted February 1 If you go out of the Dorotheum, take the U6 to Heiligenstadt, then the 400 Bus to Klosterneuburg, you can try out dozens of violins that are light years better than that, and don’t need repairing. I could spend all afternoon telling you Dorotheum anecdotes whilst you are trying them out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
______ Posted February 1 Report Share Posted February 1 21 minutes ago, jacobsaunders said: If you go out of the Dorotheum, take the U6 to Heiligenstadt, then the 400 Bus to Klosterneuburg, you can try out dozens of violins that are light years better than that, and don’t need repairing. I could spend all afternoon telling you Dorotheum anecdotes whilst you are trying them out ...what is a 10^12% better option than dorotheum one. 15 hours ago, Shelbow said: It's OK they can sue me instead. That would've been a perfect self-headshot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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