Violin Varnish Italy Posted December 8, 2022 Report Posted December 8, 2022 15 minutes ago, David Burgess said: Do you have any opinions about rude sellers? You are one of those who claim to treat a seller badly and that the latter should also suffer. I'm sorry I am one who defends himself, if you like BDSM practices then you have the wrong forum and profession.
David Burgess Posted December 8, 2022 Report Posted December 8, 2022 1 hour ago, Violin Varnish Italy said: You are one of those who claim to treat a seller badly and that the latter should also suffer. Huh? Are you drunk?
Violin Varnish Italy Posted December 8, 2022 Report Posted December 8, 2022 Just now, David Burgess said: Huh? Are you drunk? When you have no more arguments, you descend to insults, or rather to defamations. You are very similar to Nestor. You tried to defame me on the products and you failed, then you tried on "professionalism" and you weren't able to do that either... you are Trolls, not even that talented. If you want to try to insult again, go ahead.
Violin Varnish Italy Posted December 8, 2022 Report Posted December 8, 2022 As you can see from this screen shot on instagram , the meaning of Nestor's post was not to seek help on varnish application, but to seek a "clash" with me. Having said that, I greet you, and I unsubscribe from Maestronet, I find that the level of users has dropped a lot in recent years.
JacksonMaberry Posted December 8, 2022 Report Posted December 8, 2022 @Shelbow @Jeffrey Holmes help please
Violin Varnish Italy Posted December 8, 2022 Report Posted December 8, 2022 18 minutes ago, JacksonMaberry said: @Shelbow @Jeffrey Holmes help please I have already asked the admin the procedure to unsubscribe , because I can not find it . I no longer intend to stay on this forum. Even to remove any doubts, I'm not here to advertise myself, the defamations of certain little characters don't scare me and they don't damage me financially. I still sell my varnishes and I know as always I am free to say what I want because I do my job honestly.
ernym Posted December 8, 2022 Report Posted December 8, 2022 59 minutes ago, JacksonMaberry said: @Shelbow @Jeffrey Holmes help please I think this thread should remain available. There is a lot of good usable information for the OP to refer to as he revarnishes. If anyone finds this defending of oneself rude then go read a different thread, pretty simple.
JacksonMaberry Posted December 8, 2022 Report Posted December 8, 2022 25 minutes ago, charliemaine said: I think this thread should remain available. There is a lot of good usable information for the OP to refer to as he revarnishes. If anyone finds this defending of oneself rude then go read a different thread, pretty simple. What is objectionable is the weirdness between Burgess and Nunzio, surely you can see that??? That's not what the forum is about. Unlike some I'd rather see the community show it's best.
Dr. Mark Posted December 8, 2022 Report Posted December 8, 2022 Truce? Is anyone benefiting from this?
JacksonMaberry Posted December 8, 2022 Report Posted December 8, 2022 1 minute ago, Dr. Mark said: Truce? Is anyone benefiting from this? Of course not. I hope we can all stop baiting each other.
Violin Varnish Italy Posted December 9, 2022 Report Posted December 9, 2022 4 minutes ago, JacksonMaberry said: What is objectionable is the weirdness between Burgess and Nunzio, surely you can see that??? That's not what the forum is about. Unlike some I'd rather see the community show it's best. Jackson , I have already had to demonstrate again that I was applying a varnish that I had applied 4 years ago and of which there was a video , I had to take the same violin and apply the same varnish again ... this is already offensive , as if I I had in that video from years ago I faked something. It's humiliating. There are other manufacturers of Varnish .. Oldwood 1700 , Joe Robson , Hammerl ....and others that I can not remember , just choose them . I would like to be left alone, several times I have proposed to sell my business because I'm bored, I'd rather be a bricklayer because I'm bored with so many fake craftsmen without any humility. I renew my decision to be excluded from the forum
JacksonMaberry Posted December 9, 2022 Report Posted December 9, 2022 5 minutes ago, Violin Varnish Italy said: Jackson , I have already had to demonstrate again that I was applying a varnish that I had applied 4 years ago and of which there was a video , I had to take the same violin and apply the same varnish again ... this is already offensive , as if I I had in that video from years ago I faked something. It's humiliating. There are other manufacturers of Varnish .. Oldwood 1700 , Joe Robson , Hammerl ....and others that I can not remember , just choose them . I would like to be left alone, several times I have proposed to sell my business because I'm bored, I'd rather be a bricklayer because I'm bored with so many fake craftsmen without any humility. I renew my decision to be excluded from the forum I'm sorry that your experience here has not been good. I wish you luck.
ernym Posted December 9, 2022 Report Posted December 9, 2022 30 minutes ago, JacksonMaberry said: What is objectionable is the weirdness between Burgess and Nunzio, surely you can see that??? That's not what the forum is about. Unlike some I'd rather see the community show it's best. I see no weirdness, nothing different than between Burgess and you and don't remember you having to ask the moderators for help. But I think your word smithing has him beat hands down.
Violin Varnish Italy Posted December 9, 2022 Report Posted December 9, 2022 8 minutes ago, JacksonMaberry said: I'm sorry that your experience here has not been good. I wish you luck. it was good until a few years ago, I've been a member for a few years, then the "upstarts" arrived and they want to teach me how I should apply my varnish, so I don't think I should be part of this group anymore
David Burgess Posted December 9, 2022 Report Posted December 9, 2022 23 minutes ago, JacksonMaberry said: What is objectionable is the weirdness between Burgess and Nunzio, surely you can see that??? What? I've hardly said anything in this thread. The first comment I made was on the second page, in which I suggested that varnish always be tested on a sample piece of wood before putting it on the instrument. On page four, Nunzio said (directed at me), "You are one of those who claim to treat a seller badly and that the latter should also suffer". This had no basis in reality and made no sense, so I asked if he was drunk, which I honestly suspected from his behavior.
Violin Varnish Italy Posted December 9, 2022 Report Posted December 9, 2022 2 minutes ago, David Burgess said: What? I've hardly said anything in this thread. The first comment I made was on the second page, in which I suggested that varnish always be tested on a sample piece of wood before putting it on the instrument. On page four, Nunzio said (directed at me), "You are one of those who claim to treat a seller badly and that the latter should also suffer". This had no basis in reality and made no sense, so I asked if he was drunk, which I honestly suspected from his behavior.
JacksonMaberry Posted December 9, 2022 Report Posted December 9, 2022 8 minutes ago, charliemaine said: I see no weirdness, nothing different than between Burgess and you and don't remember you having to ask the moderators for help. But I think your word smithing has him beat hands down. I don't enjoy trading jibes with David or anyone else, personally. It's nothing against him personally, I'd just rather talk about fiddles.
JacksonMaberry Posted December 9, 2022 Report Posted December 9, 2022 5 minutes ago, David Burgess said: What? I've hardly said anything in this thread. The first comment I made was on the second page, in which I suggested that varnish always be tested on a sample piece of wood before putting it on the instrument. On page four, Nunzio said (directed at me), "You are one of those who claim to treat a seller badly and that the latter should also suffer". This had no basis in reality and made no sense, so I asked if he was drunk, which I honestly suspected from his behavior. I didn't say anything in particular about your posts. Only pointing out the unnecessary tension that has developed, and you happened to have been dragged into it whether that was your intention or not.
Violin Varnish Italy Posted December 9, 2022 Report Posted December 9, 2022 9 minutes ago, David Burgess said: What? I've hardly said anything in this thread. The first comment I made was on the second page, in which I suggested that varnish always be tested on a sample piece of wood before putting it on the instrument. On page four, Nunzio said (directed at me), "You are one of those who claim to treat a seller badly and that the latter should also suffer". This had no basis in reality and made no sense, so I asked if he was drunk, which I honestly suspected from his behavior. You called me a drunk, don't be politically correct, I didn't offend you if you don't think that calling a person a drunkard you are more alcoholic than me, because you don't remember what you write, you seem dissociated
Violin Varnish Italy Posted December 9, 2022 Report Posted December 9, 2022 The fact remains that someone accused me in this post that my varnish was bad, I demonstrated with videos and photos that my varnish spreads perfectly, now having no other reason to attack my products you are attacking me. Another reason why I request to be excluded from this forum.
Violin Varnish Italy Posted December 9, 2022 Report Posted December 9, 2022 3 minutes ago, David Burgess said: LOL! Thank you my alcoholic friend
Mark Norfleet Posted December 9, 2022 Report Posted December 9, 2022 7 minutes ago, Violin Varnish Italy said: You called me a drunk, don't be politically correct, I didn't offend you if you don't think that calling a person a drunkard you are more alcoholic than me, because you don't remember what you write, you seem dissociated With all due respect, David didn’t call you anything. He simply asked a question as he had the impression that some of what you wrote seemed to not make sense, and I agree. Perverting that fair, though perhaps offensive, question into a statement that he called you a “drunkard” isn’t fair or at all productive.
Violin Varnish Italy Posted December 9, 2022 Report Posted December 9, 2022 4 minutes ago, Mark Norfleet said: With all due respect, David didn’t call you anything. He simply asked a question as he had the impression that some of what you wrote seemed to not make sense, and I agree. Perverting that fair, though perhaps offensive, question into a statement that he called you a “drunkard” isn’t fair or at all productive. With all due respect, you are not reading the thread , do you want to deny the evidence?
Shelbow Posted December 9, 2022 Report Posted December 9, 2022 MOD HAT ON! Time for everyone to take a breath and see if we can turn this thread into a respectful and helpful conversation. All the parties involved should work together to mitigate the issue here in a proactive way rather than argue. There is an opportunity here to look at the process the OP has been using and to see if we can assist with finding him a solution that works. It seems like this discussion (and or previous discussions) have got off on the wrong foot and I would advise both the OP and the Manufacturer of the product to discuss this situation in an amicable way without insults. You are welcome to use the PM system on this forum to do so. @Violin Varnish Italy if you still wish for you account to be deleted we will have to wait for @Jeffrey Holmes to action this request. To everyone else, please stop stoking the fire. Time to get the thread back on a respectable footing otherwise it will be locked!
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