Yogic Posted December 2, 2022 Report Posted December 2, 2022 Looks like a copy right to the tailpiece looking similar https://www.ebay.com/itm/144835245977?hash=item21b8da7799:g:4TsAAOSwgtRjgTZC https://www.cellocollection.com/cello-luigi-galimberti-1937/#.Y4psLnbMK3A
jacobsaunders Posted December 2, 2022 Report Posted December 2, 2022 If it is the same cello (looks like it) then it could be another criminal scam from the South of France
Yogic Posted December 2, 2022 Author Report Posted December 2, 2022 1 hour ago, jacobsaunders said: If it is the same cello (looks like it) then it could be another criminal scam from the South of France It seems line an elaborate copy to me. The seller is a master counterfeiter going by the copy
______ Posted December 2, 2022 Report Posted December 2, 2022 1 hour ago, jacobsaunders said: If it is the same cello (looks like it) then it could be another criminal scam from the South of France I wonder why from the south?
martin swan Posted December 3, 2022 Report Posted December 3, 2022 The “cello collection in Paris” site is surely all fakes anyway. It’s not a proper website either…
Blank face Posted December 3, 2022 Report Posted December 3, 2022 10 hours ago, Yogic said: It seems line an elaborate copy to me. The seller is a master counterfeiter going by the copy What is master about it if everyone can see that these are crudely antiqued brandnew products?
Strad O Various Jr. Posted December 3, 2022 Report Posted December 3, 2022 1 hour ago, Blank face said: What is master about it if everyone can see that these are crudely antiqued brandnew products? Sorry but I don't see any antiqueing on the cellos
martin swan Posted December 3, 2022 Report Posted December 3, 2022 Agree If you can’t tell that it’s the same cello or that it has nothing to do with Galimberti then maybe it’s not quite time to give up the day job.
jacobsaunders Posted December 3, 2022 Report Posted December 3, 2022 13 hours ago, ______ said: I wonder why from the south? The South of France seems to be a bit of an ebay Bermuda Triangle
Blank face Posted December 3, 2022 Report Posted December 3, 2022 7 hours ago, Strad O Various Jr. said: Sorry but I don't see any antiqueing on the cellos
______ Posted December 3, 2022 Report Posted December 3, 2022 7 hours ago, jacobsaunders said: The South of France seems to be a bit of an ebay Bermuda Triangle I'm not an eBay lurker at all. Thanks for the explanation.
Spelman Posted December 3, 2022 Report Posted December 3, 2022 9 hours ago, martin swan said: Agree If you can’t tell that it’s the same cello or that it has nothing to do with Galimberti then maybe it’s not quite time to give up the day job. Not 100% sure they are the same cello, beyond the obviously different tailpieces (which of course could have been swapped out), I'm not seeing some of the same details on each instrument. Although the cellocollection site's pictures are terrible. Certainly the same shop/factory.
germain Posted December 3, 2022 Report Posted December 3, 2022 The South of France "Syndicate" seems to love certain makers in their faking operation. Galimberti is one of them. Giorgio Corsini is another favorite of theirs. I am guessing they have brands and labels, signatures of the above makers. They seem to be always faking not very valuable Italian makers... I guess they are betting on the more obscure makers in order to create more buyer confusion
martin swan Posted December 4, 2022 Report Posted December 4, 2022 2 hours ago, Spelman said: Not 100% sure they are the same cello, beyond the obviously different tailpieces (which of course could have been swapped out), I'm not seeing some of the same details on each instrument. Although the cellocollection site's pictures are terrible. Certainly the same shop/factory. You will find the same black splodge on the upper C-bout rib. The pseudo-ebony crown and the 2 odd pins in the upper back etc. It's also a very quirky model with very narrow upper bouts - I would hope there aren't 2 in existence ... Other apparent variations are just differences in lighting.
palousian Posted December 4, 2022 Report Posted December 4, 2022 The peculiar end to the fingerboard is similar in both celli, but not the same, for what that's worth.
cellopera Posted December 4, 2022 Report Posted December 4, 2022 5 hours ago, palousian said: The peculiar end to the fingerboard is similar in both celli, but not the same, for what that's worth. 7 hours ago, martin swan said: It's also a very quirky model with very narrow upper bouts - I would hope there aren't 2 in existence ... Your nightmare might be true, unless they put on a different fingerboard.
martin swan Posted December 4, 2022 Report Posted December 4, 2022 Thats just a drop of paint to make it look a bit different ... given that these people take instruments apart to brand and rebrand them, sign them, label them etc I don't think a change of tailpiece and a splodge of gold paint on the fingerboard is going to present much of a challenge.
David Alex T. Posted December 16, 2022 Report Posted December 16, 2022 The Clause is interesting. https://www.cellocollection.com/clause/#.Y5xmHqTfs0E I never saw such clause from a reliable source. The seller do not provide himself a certificate. people who doubt of authenticity have to demonstrate It with written form.
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