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We are always quick to make the judgement of “worthless”.  While that assessment may be accurate and important to a dealer, that does not mean that a fiddle is not “worthwhile” to an individual.

Grandma Moses paintings look “amateurishly made”.  Shaker furniture is deliberately plain, in the extreme.  But they have every bit the artistry, charm and meaning of an Andrew Wyeth or Benjamin Randolph.

 

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9 minutes ago, Shunyata said:

We are always quick to make the judgement of “worthless”.  While that assessment may be accurate and important to a dealer, that does not mean that a fiddle is not “worthwhile” to an individual.

Grandma Moses paintings look “amateurishly made”.  Shaker furniture is deliberately plain, in the extreme.  But they have every bit the artistry, charm and meaning of an Andrew Wyeth or Benjamin Randolph.

 

So you really like that "violin"? :D  it is not really worthless, you can quite successfully use it as wall deco. 

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2 hours ago, Blank face said:

The OP violin isn't made by an amateur, but a common Mnk/Schb made trade fiddle, overworked by a jerk altering ff, varnish and graduations.

Perhaps, but along with everything else, the scroll does not look like a Mnk/Schb made trade fiddle scroll, either. The whole thing looks very crudely-made, even when compared to the lower grade cottage industry stuff. 

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22 minutes ago, GeorgeH said:

Perhaps, but along with everything else, the scroll does not look like a Mnk/Schb made trade fiddle scroll, either. The whole thing looks very crudely-made, even when compared to the lower grade cottage industry stuff. 

I assume that much is blurred due to stripping with sandpaper or scraping, edgework and other details. There’s not much visible from the scroll than front and rear, but both seem to be in congruence with the usual in my eyes.

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3 hours ago, Blank face said:

The OP violin isn't made by an amateur, but a common Mnk/Schb made trade fiddle, overworked by a jerk altering ff, varnish and graduations.

I think you're being a bit harsh. Is everyone who buys cheap (usually) Chinese violins today and experiments with regrads and refinishing a "jerk?"

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9 hours ago, Spelman said:

I think you're being a bit harsh. Is everyone who buys cheap (usually) Chinese violins today and experiments with regrads and refinishing a "jerk?"

I don't think I talked about "everybody" doing something what I didn't see but about the violin pictured here?

 

7 hours ago, Marty Kasprzyk said:

How does it sound?

The violin is supposed to be used for producing music.  If it doesn't sound good it is worthless for players.

 

Obviously both the persons signing it felt that it looked and sounded good, otherwise they hadn't put proudly their name into it.

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