Tuning the soundpost

[Marty Kasprzyk]

22 minutes ago, David Burgess said:

So comments must be formal, clinical and staid? No funning around allowed on your watch?

There's some real nut cases out there.  

It's nice to not feel all alone.

[David Burgess]

1 hour ago, JacksonMaberry said:

Not at all! It's plenty easy to have fun without being a jerk anyway.

You may disagree, and that's fine, but all I'd like to see is a kinder forum. It would be easy to ignore unkindness when I see it, and even easier to be unkind myself (God knows I am sometimes). But I'm trying to be better. Trying, at least. 

Is it OK to make unkind remarks about Poo Tin, boss?

[JacksonMaberry]

7 minutes ago, David Burgess said:

Is it OK to make unkind remarks about Poo Tin?

I think ideally we would give everyone the benefit of the doubt and assume that they are doing the best they can with what they've got. We're all coming from somewhere different, and even the best of intentions can bear bad fruit. But I do think we're all trying.

[David Stiles]

1 hour ago, JacksonMaberry said:

You may disagree, and that's fine, but all I'd like to see is a kinder forum. It would be easy to ignore unkindness when I see it, and even easier to be unkind myself (God knows I am sometimes). But I'm trying to be better. Trying, at least. 

There is another candidate for a pinned post.

This place is much kinder than many, but it is well worth working to keep it that way.

 

[JacksonMaberry]

28 minutes ago, David Stiles said:

There is another candidate for a pinned post.

This place is much kinder than many, but it is well worth working to keep it that way.

 

Thank you, I'm glad you agree.

[Don Noon]

Why would anyone want to go and ruin the hard-earned reputation of the internet with such niceness?

[Michael Szyper]

13 hours ago, David Burgess said:

If feeling hurt might deter him from spreading disinformation, could it be of greater overall benefit than fluffing him?

Offending someone was always the best way of convincing people…

[HoGo]

We cannot do much here. Internet started as tool for sharing information but what noone counted with is that once it got open to anyone who is capable of pressing buttons on keyboard the misinformation started spreading like pestilence and it is proven that it spreads several times faster than truth.

Older of us can remember those times when pure BS was rare on internet.

[David Burgess]

31 minutes ago, Michael Szyper said:

Offending someone was always the best way of convincing people…

Is wry humor absent in some parts of the world?

[David Stiles]

3 minutes ago, David Burgess said:

Is wry humor absent in some parts of the world?

It's alive and well down under, and at least some parts of the USA it seems.  

[Michael Szyper]

1 hour ago, David Burgess said:

Is wry humor absent in some parts of the world?

It is very well possible that I don’t get the nuances as a foreign speaker. I like humor wich makes one laugh without hurting anybody. 

[David Burgess]

If memory serves, Langsather once ran a business which rebuilt, modified, or manufactured aftermarket torsional vibration dampeners for Corvair crankshafts. Maybe he decided to move these skills over to violins, since there aren't many Corvairs around any more, but lots of violins.

I also know of some rather bizarre things that took place when he entered a VSA Competion, but should I disclose, it might interfere with Jackson's enjoyment of his milk and organic whole-grain cookies.

[reg]

Sigh!

...remember Pahdah Hound and the Danube fiddler etc

Oh for the good old days

[BernieR]

2 hours ago, David Burgess said:

 some rather bizarre things that took place when he entered a VSA Competion, but should I disclose, it might interfere with Jackson's enjoyment of his milk and organic whole-grain cookies.

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Please disclose, that sounds interesting and fun.

 

[JacksonMaberry]

4 hours ago, David Burgess said:

If memory serves, Langsather once ran a business which rebuilt, modified, or manufactured aftermarket torsional vibration dampeners for Corvair crankshafts. Maybe he decided to move these skills over to violins, since there aren't many Corvairs around any more, but lots of violins.

I also know of some rather bizarre things that took place when he entered a VSA Competion, but should I disclose, it might interfere with Jackson's enjoyment of his milk and organic whole-grain cookies.

Thank you for your consideration. 

[Wood Butcher]

7 hours ago, reg said:

Sigh!

...remember Pahdah Hound
Oh for the good old days

What do you remember that was good?

[TZEENTCHAU]

As someone who is just starting out in the field, albeit as an amateur, I actually appreciate the directness of some members (and the wryness often helps keep my attention). It helps me direct my limited time to where it is best used. 

[JacksonMaberry]

2 hours ago, TZEENTCHAU said:

As someone who is just starting out in the field, albeit as an amateur, I actually appreciate the directness of some members (and the wryness often helps keep my attention). It helps me direct my limited time to where it is best used. 

I can understand why that might be helpful. But surely you'll agree that there is a difference between direct and unkind. 

[TZEENTCHAU]

11 hours ago, JacksonMaberry said:

I can understand why that might be helpful. But surely you'll agree that there is a difference between direct and unkind. 

Agreed, and appreciate your effort. I come from a background with regular extreme criticism, so I see only playful banter here -even if said from a position of power.

[jacobsaunders]

On 10/19/2022 at 1:31 AM, JacksonMaberry said:

Not at all! It's plenty easy to have fun without being a jerk anyway.

You may disagree, and that's fine, but all I'd like to see is a kinder forum. It would be easy to ignore unkindness when I see it, and even easier to be unkind myself (God knows I am sometimes). But I'm trying to be better. Trying, at least. 

If you think David is a jerk, just tell him, he won’t mind.

When taking the piss out of something, “kindness” isn’t a criterion

[David Burgess]

Corny joke time:

If a man speaks in the forest, but there is no woman there to hear him, is he still wrong?

[JacksonMaberry]

4 hours ago, TZEENTCHAU said:

Agreed, and appreciate your effort. I come from a background with regular extreme criticism, so I see only playful banter here -even if said from a position of power.

This is pretty mild for David.

[James M. Jones]

Near as I can tell there’s been no name calling or derogatory statements made of his basic substance as a human being

I’d be tempted to ask what is kindness after all . ? I mean sure there’s always “nice “ ways to say things , but to offer an unvarnished truth —— .? Mostly comes off as not so nice , “ hey your breath stinks ! Doesn’t sound nice , but could be the nicest thing a person hears in a day . Even if they are smothered in compliments on their shoes .... am I wrong.? I’ve always admired certain contributors  way of cutting to the bone, saves a ton of time sorting, 

The problem with The guys videos is that they are entirely unfounded and have no peer support, yet the production quality is high enough and his confidence in the process suggests he is some one to listen to. Like the fellow doing acupuncture or the STL guy hours upon hours have been waisted by beginner makers, myself included.... over nonsense, pure made up nonsense.... but that’s not nice to say ....so who is not being nice ? Who’s the one leading people down false paths ? What does being nice even mean these days? I’m all for politically correct language and sensitivity to diversity.... but also am not into putting makeup on pigs . 

[JacksonMaberry]

1 hour ago, James M. Jones said:

Near as I can tell there’s been no name calling or derogatory statements made of his basic substance as a human being

I’d be tempted to ask what is kindness after all . ? I mean sure there’s always “nice “ ways to say things , but to offer an unvarnished truth —— .? Mostly comes off as not so nice , “ hey your breath stinks ! Doesn’t sound nice , but could be the nicest thing a person hears in a day . Even if they are smothered in compliments on their shoes .... am I wrong.? I’ve always admired certain contributors  way of cutting to the bone, saves a ton of time sorting, 

The problem with The guys videos is that they are entirely unfounded and have no peer support, yet the production quality is high enough and his confidence in the process suggests he is some one to listen to. Like the fellow doing acupuncture or the STL guy hours upon hours have been waisted by beginner makers, myself included.... over nonsense, pure made up nonsense.... but that’s not nice to say ....so who is not being nice ? Who’s the one leading people down false paths ? What does being nice even mean these days? I’m all for politically correct language and sensitivity to diversity.... but also am not into putting makeup on pigs . 

If you want to hear my thoughts on this, give me a call. I'm not going to wear out my thumbs anymore on this topic. Its going nowhere. 

Look, we all seem to agree that the Langsather methods leave a lot to be desired and may even be considered counterproductive. I'm going to move on, and I invite y'all to join me if you're so inclined.

[David Burgess]

1 hour ago, JacksonMaberry said:

I'm going to move on, and I invite y'all to join me if you're so inclined.

Before moving on, shouldn't we all form a circle, join hands, and sing 'Kumbaya'?