FoxMitchell Posted September 23, 2022 Report Share Posted September 23, 2022 Hey! It's been a while since I posted anything here! How's everybody doing? I got a violin in some rough shape that someone wanted me to put back together, and for the sake of my own curiosity and due diligence, I was wondering if any of the experts here think this is one of the real/good Joseph Klotz, or just the average Mittenwald fare with a Klotz label? Personally I think the whole thing is a bit too sloppy. The back is beautiful, though. Thank you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacobsaunders Posted September 23, 2022 Report Share Posted September 23, 2022 The "usual" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blank face Posted September 23, 2022 Report Share Posted September 23, 2022 Meaning the usual Mark/Sch cottage industry, not Mittenwald (just in case there's something unclear). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FoxMitchell Posted September 23, 2022 Author Report Share Posted September 23, 2022 3 hours ago, jacobsaunders said: The "usual" 1 hour ago, Blank face said: Meaning the usual Mark/Sch cottage industry, not Mittenwald (just in case there's something unclear). Oh so not even Mittenwald? Those Markneukirchen makers were sneaky! Thank you for the help! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacobsaunders Posted September 23, 2022 Report Share Posted September 23, 2022 25 minutes ago, FoxMitchell said: Those Markneukirchen makers were sneaky! No they weren't Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeorgeH Posted September 23, 2022 Report Share Posted September 23, 2022 @FoxMitchell You will find this enlightening: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delabo Posted September 23, 2022 Report Share Posted September 23, 2022 The back is nice, and it makes it more surprising that this violin was built without corner blocks, something you see in Mittenwald violins. But it does have a glued in bass bar unlike the very bottom grade that are chiselled out from the top wood. Here is one I have that shows the carved out bass bar and "Beaver chewed" top, with fake bottom corner blocks. It is Czechoslovakian which I guess dates it to post 1918. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacobsaunders Posted September 23, 2022 Report Share Posted September 23, 2022 9 minutes ago, Delabo said: unlike the very bottom grade that are chiselled out from the top wood. https://maestronet.com/forum/index.php?/topic/339564-seidel/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delabo Posted September 23, 2022 Report Share Posted September 23, 2022 3 hours ago, jacobsaunders said: https://maestronet.com/forum/index.php?/topic/339564-seidel/ Ah! but I have been very well taught by your good-self that one feature alone is not enough to ID a violin. I think we are agreed that my violin has the many features that add up to ID its humble status. But I take your point that very fine violins can have carved bass bars. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wood Butcher Posted September 23, 2022 Report Share Posted September 23, 2022 7 hours ago, Delabo said: The back is nice, and it makes it more surprising that this violin was built without corner blocks, something you see in Mittenwald violins. I’ve never seen any Mittenwald instruments made without corner blocks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delabo Posted September 23, 2022 Report Share Posted September 23, 2022 2 hours ago, Wood Butcher said: I’ve never seen any Mittenwald instruments made without corner blocks. oops! I had to read my answer a couple of times to see the error you are pointing out. I of course meant to say “something you never see in Mittenwald violins”. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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