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If the burn mark to the left of the tailpiece is from the cigar the player smoked, the scratches might be from the player lighting the matches on the only area of the top with enough friction, due to the rosin buildup. The violin was probably played in a smoky saloon in the wild west and recieved stains of whiskey, chewing tobacco, knife fights and gunpowder.

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8 hours ago, nathan slobodkin said:

Looks like a child was angry about having to practice  on a nice summer day.

 

7 hours ago, Rue said:

I agree...likely due to carelessness.

 

5 hours ago, Wood Butcher said:

I'd agree with Nathan's hypothesis, whatever was going on behind the bridge, it's clearly intentional too.
 

IMHO, we're seeing the results of more than one incident.  The gouges at the fingerboard end I'm not sure about.  The bass side lower bout scar looks like it might have been a cigarette burn.  The marks under the bridge, however, look to me like a bored young lady with a fancy hair comb, some bobby pins with the plastic ends missing, and possibly a nail file and a mechanical pencil, found a way to amuse herself.  :rolleyes:

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Hi, some people have already met my '$5' model.
And where does such destruction come from?
Sure, arched it's from micro fine tuning, but this 'under the bow'?
Second thing, I will renew them (with my head on my neck) ...
Do you, such places lightly clean, color and protect them, or (sorry), take off the layer a little to reduce sharp dents, and only then the color and protection?

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On 7/30/2022 at 5:54 AM, Renegade said:

Hi, some people have already met my '$5' model.
And where does such destruction come from?
Sure, arched it's from micro fine tuning, but this 'under the bow'?
Second thing, I will renew them (with my head on my neck) ...
Do you, such places lightly clean, color and protect them, or (sorry), take off the layer a little to reduce sharp dents, and only then the color and protection?

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The scratches below the F holes on yours are from transporting with the bridge down, and having the tuners on the tailpiece swing back and forth, digging into the wood. Retouching damage like that is quite complex, but on a $5 fiddle, anything might be an improvement.

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8 hours ago, GeorgeH said:

The marks on the OP‘s violin look like they were burned in with a hot soldering iron. 

Woodburning kits, for scorching patterns into wood or leather (also called pyrography, and still being made), used to be popular children's toys.  That thought had also crossed my mind.  :)

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2 hours ago, Violadamore said:

Woodburning kits, for scorching patterns into wood or leather (also called pyrography, and still being made), used to be popular children's toys.  That thought had also crossed my mind.  :)

Yep. They look like deep charred burn marks, not scratches painted black nor embedded with blackened rosin. Also some of the spots are perfectly round as if the hot tip was pressed straight into the wood.

Why anybody would do such a thing is the mystery. 

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2 hours ago, GeorgeH said:

Yep. They look like deep charred burn marks, not scratches painted black nor embedded with blackened rosin. Also some of the spots are perfectly round as if the hot tip was pressed straight into the wood.

Why anybody would do such a thing is the mystery. 

First attempts at "antiquing"are not always wildly successful. ;)

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3 hours ago, GeorgeH said:

Yep. They look like deep charred burn marks, not scratches painted black nor embedded with blackened rosin. Also some of the spots are perfectly round as if the hot tip was pressed straight into the wood.

Why anybody would do such a thing is the mystery. 

Like I said in a previous post, there's more than one event preserved here.  The complicated design at the bottom shows more evidence of scratching than burning. The long straight marks have a comb-like spacing, and square edges (ergo the bobby pins or nail file).  The round depressions have central peaks suggesting the hole in the barrel of a mechanical pencil, a spacing consistent with decorative piercings through a Spanish-styled (or otherwise fancy) hair comb, and don't look burned.  :)

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Nothing looks burned to me. It all just looks like someone scratched away at it with a pen/pencil ...or the back of a tuning fork...

BTW...do violin tuning forks all have a round end...or are some with a square end? I can't recall. I mostly used a pitch pipe way back when...before the advent of the electronic tuner...

..I  also tuned with a piano...but those scratches are NOT from a piano. :ph34r:

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14 hours ago, Rue said:

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BTW...do violin tuning forks all have a round end...or are some with a square end? I can't recall. I mostly used a pitch pipe way back when...before the advent of the electronic tuner...

..I  also tuned with a piano...but those scratches are NOT from a piano. :ph34r:

When considered a precision instrument, some very pricey tuning forks arrive at a point.

The Yamaha logo has three forks with points. Not to equate, that Yamaha = precision.

I can not locate them but there are a few forks here that were part of a piano tuners kit that had very precise ends.

There are tuning forks with both concave and convex ends. There must be a need for a low amplitude ( or high, depending on application ) frequency generator.

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