Niloiv Posted July 4, 2022 Report Share Posted July 4, 2022 There's no tag inside of it. Nothing written or stamped on the body and/or bows. I was hoping that the workmanship might be enough for an educated guess. I've been unable to google anything all that helpful. Thanks in advance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad Dorsey Posted July 4, 2022 Report Share Posted July 4, 2022 It is a cheap mass-produced student or rental grade violin. Probably made in Germany about 1950 to 1980. Violins like this often have E R Pfretzschner labels. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niloiv Posted July 4, 2022 Author Report Share Posted July 4, 2022 Hmmmm...not the answer I was hoping for. But if that's what it is, that's what it is. Thank you. If I can ask, what's the market value of one of these? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacobsaunders Posted July 4, 2022 Report Share Posted July 4, 2022 35 minutes ago, Niloiv said: If I can ask, what's the market value of one of these? Nothing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron1 Posted July 5, 2022 Report Share Posted July 5, 2022 Ouch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rue Posted July 5, 2022 Report Share Posted July 5, 2022 FWIW...as it is...maybe worth $50? New strings are also ~$50...and you need to spend that to find out if it's even playable. And...if it's playable - it might be worth $250. ...and that's only if there are no open seams or other repairs...and if it doesn’t need a new bridge/soundpost (somewhat hard to tell, what with the bridge being tucked under the tailpiece and all )... (And no...the bows aren't worth anything either other than plant stakes...) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacobsaunders Posted July 5, 2022 Report Share Posted July 5, 2022 12 hours ago, Brad Dorsey said: It is a cheap mass-produced student or rental grade violin. Probably made in Germany about 1950 to 1980. Violins like this often have E R Pfretzschner labels. Not that it were something to argue about, but I suspect that the op violin is one from the violin factory in Szeged in South Hungary pre fall of the “iron curtain” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spongebob Posted July 5, 2022 Report Share Posted July 5, 2022 2 hours ago, jacobsaunders said: Not that it were something to argue about, but I suspect that the op violin is one from the violin factory in Szeged in South Hungary pre fall of the “iron curtain” This violin has a very strong hollow / recess in the wood, along the entire purfling line (found on many instruments). Is it characteristic of some technique / region / master? PS: You remember my Fischer, it was completely flat in these places. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacobsaunders Posted July 5, 2022 Report Share Posted July 5, 2022 8 minutes ago, Renegade said: You remember my Fischer, You don't have a Fischer, how many times must I tell you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spongebob Posted July 5, 2022 Report Share Posted July 5, 2022 9 minutes ago, jacobsaunders said: You don't have a Fischer, how many times must I tell you Sorry it was just for variation, I could have put in other photos (but it was mine) ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad Dorsey Posted July 5, 2022 Report Share Posted July 5, 2022 4 hours ago, jacobsaunders said: Not that it were something to argue about, but I suspect that the op violin is one from the violin factory in Szeged in South Hungary pre fall of the “iron curtain” I'm sure you know better than I do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spongebob Posted July 5, 2022 Report Share Posted July 5, 2022 This violin has a very strong hollow / recess in the wood, along the entire purfling line (found on many instruments). Others have a more flattened place ... I'm just talking about the purfling line. Is it characteristic of some technique / region / master? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacobsaunders Posted July 5, 2022 Report Share Posted July 5, 2022 13 minutes ago, Renegade said: This violin has a very strong hollow / recess in the wood, along the entire purfling line (found on many instruments). Others have a more flattened place ... I'm just talking about the purfling line. Is it characteristic of some technique / region / master? No, the technical term is “fluting” and it varies in all geographies Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spongebob Posted July 5, 2022 Report Share Posted July 5, 2022 4 minutes ago, jacobsaunders said: No, the technical term is “fluting” and it varies in all geographies Purfling Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacobsaunders Posted July 5, 2022 Report Share Posted July 5, 2022 In you’re case, the technical term is evidently “taking the piss” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spongebob Posted July 5, 2022 Report Share Posted July 5, 2022 And it was enough not to answer or write - hi, man, no one understands what you are writing about... you probably lack professional vocabulary... - and not write evasively twice, and the third time, "probably" offend me. I apologize to everyone I have offended by my ignorance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoGo Posted July 6, 2022 Report Share Posted July 6, 2022 16 hours ago, Renegade said: I apologize to everyone I have offended by my ignorance. You should study the violin construction vocabulary a bit more before posting. Your posts seem to be pretty confusing (even I, being a Slovak, I tried with little luck to decipher what a Polish guy could think when writing those sentences in English). Don't take their words as rude. Humour on this site may be a bit pub-style sometimes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spongebob Posted July 6, 2022 Report Share Posted July 6, 2022 9 minutes ago, HoGo said: You should study the violin construction vocabulary a bit more before posting. Your posts seem to be pretty confusing (even I, being a Slovak, I tried with little luck to decipher what a Polish guy could think when writing those sentences in English). Don't take their words as rude. Humour on this site may be a bit pub-style sometimes. Hi, your words helped me a lot. ...And you are right about my Slavic character (this is the Hard version) :/ I feel terrible since yesterday. I barely signed up for this Forum, and already (most likely) offended Jakub. I feel pathetic. You don't even know how much, I've spent the last few days reading older entries (phew). I learn diligently, and if you compare my first entries, e.g. with today's one (Klingenthal) ... I can see the progress myself. (... as for the vocabulary and presentation of the topic) Thank you again... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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