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Hi pipper it has generally been suggested on this forum that some of these sellers from the south of France on Ebay aren't not all that trustworthy and given that you have inquired in another post or two about violins from one these sellers.

Do you have anything to do with this seller?

https://maestronet.com/forum/index.php?/topic/352322-opinions-on-collin-mezin-violin-please/#comment-971624

https://maestronet.com/forum/index.php?/topic/352683-help-with-identifying-collin-mezin-violin-no2/#comment-972906

Here is the seller ebay pages sold listings,the previous one you inquired sold for

$4500 US did you buy it?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/165473506315?hash=item2686fd540b%3Ag%3AvT0AAOSw1yxieDcr&nma=true&si=T8Ok%2Fa3hI1%2BDs2FoMJyHRI22UmE%3D&orig_cvip=true&nordt=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557

https://www.ebay.com/sch/frcfra2011/m.html?item=165473506315&LH_Complete=1&LH_Sold=1&rt=nc&_trksid=p2046732.m1684

 

 

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1 hour ago, Gtone said:

Hi pipper it has generally been suggested on this forum that some of these sellers from the south of France on Ebay aren't not all that trustworthy and given that you have inquired in another post or two about violins from one these sellers.

Do you have anything to do with this seller?

https://maestronet.com/forum/index.php?/topic/352322-opinions-on-collin-mezin-violin-please/#comment-971624

https://maestronet.com/forum/index.php?/topic/352683-help-with-identifying-collin-mezin-violin-no2/#comment-972906

Here is the seller ebay pages sold listings,the previous one you inquired sold for

$4500 US did you buy it?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/165473506315?hash=item2686fd540b%3Ag%3AvT0AAOSw1yxieDcr&nma=true&si=T8Ok%2Fa3hI1%2BDs2FoMJyHRI22UmE%3D&orig_cvip=true&nordt=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557

https://www.ebay.com/sch/frcfra2011/m.html?item=165473506315&LH_Complete=1&LH_Sold=1&rt=nc&_trksid=p2046732.m1684

 

 

No, but I've been curious about the violins

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5 hours ago, pipper said:

This is an interesting eBay listing.  Appears to be a genuine 1928 Collin Mezin workshop violin but with the 'Rue du faub, poissonniere, Paris' label... generally considered not to have been used after 1900.

https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/165528600690

 

The violin looks like an average Mirecourt violin of the period but I see no reason to suppose that it's a Collin-Mézin. This seller routinely sells violins that have been opened and spiced up with false labels and brands.

 

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22 hours ago, Violadamore said:

Is that a British version of "There's a sucker born every minute"?  :huh:  :lol:

The southern French violin scammers have been well-known and thoroughly documented on this board for at least a decade, and yet they still seem to flourish.  :rolleyes:

And so they will continue to flourish.
There seems to be something about human nature, which drives people to spend thousands of hours trawling every possible online grot fest, rather than going instead to the most obvious place.

In a shop, a good Collin-Mezin is running somewhere around €18,000+. You could go to a shop, buy one fully restored, with guarantees, CITES certificate, insurance valuation, and perhaps even a future trade in value arrangement too. You could then enjoy playing an excellent French violin, which made you very happy, inspired you, improved your playing, while also making you the envy of your orchestral colleagues.

Or......
You could waste years of your life trying to find one online, at a quarter of the price, from an unscrupulous source, and knowing that you are going to get f***** over, yet somehow choose to ignore that fact.
Then, when you get this thing, it is a source of disappointment, needs repairs, and of course there are serious doubts about its authenticity. Still, at least it only cost €6,000 so that's good, right? It still looks and smells old.
Ultimately, after some time, it gets put in the case and shoved under the bed, while a new search starts online for another violin. Ooooh! There are a lot of nice ones advertised from France, and the prices are so reasonable...

The world creaks round for another day, and the sun starts to rise in Bordeaux... nopity.gif.ea415402ccfd4dc24767ce9d30a5f6ef.gif

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28 minutes ago, Wood Butcher said:

There seems to be something about human nature, which drives people to spend thousands of hours trawling every possible online grot fest, rather than going instead to the most obvious place.

Playing the lottery is fun! 

(That gif is great - I had not seen that one before.)

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20 minutes ago, Wood Butcher said:

Ah, how remiss of me. I forgot that a rank amateur's violin making retirement project outperformed all other violins.

Not my claim at all, but better than most is good enough for me.  :P  :D

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35 minutes ago, pipper said:

It is curious that scammers presenting falsely labelled violins, in this case a supposed Collin Mezin, would not be aware that a label was superceded after a certain date. Don't you think?

It's not curious at all, and around here, we've seen it all at one time or another.   Shameless misrepresentation is amazingly common on eBay, and not just for violins.  If you don't have the expertise to know good from bad, and cannot do your own repairs, you need to shop violins somewhere safer.  It's not like buying common consumer goods, or books, or such there

I've gotten some very good deals from eBay, other auctions, antique shops, and estate sales, but getting there took me a very long time, and a lot of work.  :)

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4 hours ago, Violadamore said:

It's not curious at all, and around here, we've seen it all at one time or another.   Shameless misrepresentation is amazingly common on eBay, and not just for violins.  If you don't have the expertise to know good from bad, and cannot do your own repairs, you need to shop violins somewhere safer.  It's not like buying common consumer goods, or books, or such there

I've gotten some very good deals from eBay, other auctions, antique shops, and estate sales, but getting there took me a very long time, and a lot of work.  :)

I will politely ignore this comment

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