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4 hours ago, David Stiles said:

I'm no expert but I'm nearly certain it is a violin  :)

Hi pipper, since you changed the title of the thread, my comment doesn't seem so funny.  Oh, well!  Hope you were not offended.  

It is an interesting looking violin, I am looking forward to reading what the experts gave to say.  

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On 5/18/2022 at 7:32 AM, Potter said:

The hand written signature should be in pencil, at least in earlier ones...I think. Hard to tell from your pic....

Violins labeled Collin-Mezin in the mid-late 1800s are very different than those from the 1923 .

Approaching and after the turn of the century, fiddles bearing that label began to be, and continued to turn, much more commercial in nature... the hand written signature turned into an ink print signature on an oval paper label (you can see the edge of the label in the OPs photo). Then began the strange models (Le Victorieux) which have all the grace of a coffee table with strings. 

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10 hours ago, Jeffrey Holmes said:

Violins labeled Collin-Mezin in the mid-late 1800s are very different than those from the 1923 .

Approaching and after the turn of the century, fiddles bearing that label began to be, and continued to turn, much more commercial in nature... the hand written signature turned into an ink print signature on an oval paper label (you can see the edge of the label in the OPs photo). Then began the strange models (Le Victorieux) which have all the grace of a coffee table with strings. 

Jeffrey, would you say it is an authentic J B Collin - Mezin violin?

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15 hours ago, Jeffrey Holmes said:

Violins labeled Collin-Mezin in the mid-late 1800s are very different than those from the 1923 .

Approaching and after the turn of the century, fiddles bearing that label began to be, and continued to turn, much more commercial in nature... the hand written signature turned into an ink print signature on an oval paper label (you can see the edge of the label in the OPs photo). Then began the strange models (Le Victorieux) which have all the grace of a coffee table with strings. 

My daughters is 1908 and has pencil.

somehow I had picked up the idea all were, thanks for the correction!

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8 hours ago, pipper said:

Jeffrey, would you say it is an authentic J B Collin - Mezin violin?

I believe 1923 is the year Ch J. B. Collin-Mezin passed away... The firm was continued by his son, I believe. To be honest, I rarely consider if violins from that period onward are "authentic" or not due to their more commercial nature, though they certainly may have emanated from the shop (or have been made for the shop). I believe production was moved from Paris to Mirecourt sometime in the '20s, but don't know the exact year this occurred.

What I can say from a brief look at your photos is that the the oval signature label is what I'm used to seeing in these later ones, though the scroll looks a bit odd (may be the camera angle). I would also expect mention of the Grand Prix-Exposition Universelle on a label after 1900, but as I don't really pay too much attention to these later fiddles I can't say if that is something to be alarmed about or not.

Sorry I can't be of more help.

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First thing to do would be to post photos being in focus; from the actual I can see only something what could be an average Mirecourt violin behing a sort of veil, without any details. Not that I would pretend to be an expert in identification of Colin-Mezin violins.

If it's not your's but from a dealer's or auction website you need to ask the owner to do this.

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