Schwartzinc Posted February 4, 2022 Report Share Posted February 4, 2022 Title should say: Gärtmer Thoughts on this cello? I have already consulted a few members from the group; but I thought I would post openly on the forum to hear your thoughts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilipKT Posted February 5, 2022 Report Share Posted February 5, 2022 What pattern is that? The cracks look clean, but there seem to be a lot of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guido Posted February 5, 2022 Report Share Posted February 5, 2022 Reads Eugen Gärtner, Stuttgart, if this helps. Had a very good reputation and is often faked. Your cello is also branded and looks quite nice, might be real. As for these Großstadtgeigenbauer, some will say it’s all tarted up trade instruments, some will say they are artisan bench made, some will say they come from the makers own well supervised and quality controlled workshop. Probably all of these models existed, not sure where people see Gärtner, maybe in the own workshop plus some trade category? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacobsaunders Posted February 5, 2022 Report Share Posted February 5, 2022 4 hours ago, Guido said: might be real. No it isn't Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blank face Posted February 5, 2022 Report Share Posted February 5, 2022 6 hours ago, PhilipKT said: The cracks look clean, but there seem to be a lot of them. I would wonder less about cracks, but more about the exaggerated "wear". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shelbow Posted February 5, 2022 Report Share Posted February 5, 2022 When I first saw these pictures I thought Eastern European of Chinese that has been messed about with. The label doesn't really make sense either, it seems that he had a couple of different labels throughout his life, and all of these appear to have been printed. Why would he suddenly revert to a hand written one. The labels he was using at the time of the date of that label are really beautiful (IMO) multi couloured labels. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilipKT Posted February 5, 2022 Report Share Posted February 5, 2022 Would a German label have used the French word for “shop”? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacobsaunders Posted February 5, 2022 Report Share Posted February 5, 2022 23 minutes ago, PhilipKT said: Would a German label have used the French word for “shop”? “Atelier für Kunstgeigenbau” was popular for pretentious Victorian & Edwardian Stadtgeigenbauer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilipKT Posted February 6, 2022 Report Share Posted February 6, 2022 8 hours ago, jacobsaunders said: “Atelier für Kunstgeigenbau” was popular for pretentious Victorian & Edwardian Stadtgeigenbauer Vielen Dank Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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