Martin Kas Posted January 22 Report Share Posted January 22 please help with the identification and valuation of the Joh Reiter violin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacobsaunders Posted January 22 Report Share Posted January 22 Reiter in Mittenwald was a “Verleger” and supplied Mittenwald violins by people other than himself in a wide variety of price ranges. You can also read about him as he was visited by an American, Joseph Wechsberg, here https://maestronet.com/forum/index.php?/topic/341608-1940s-roth-violin-history-and-grade/&do=findComment&comment=827958 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin Kas Posted January 23 Author Report Share Posted January 23 And how much can such a violin cost? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacobsaunders Posted January 23 Report Share Posted January 23 The same as a Neuner & Hornsteiner or a Bader Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strad O Various Jr. Posted January 23 Report Share Posted January 23 Which might be $1000-1500 fully set up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacobsaunders Posted January 23 Report Share Posted January 23 Just now, Strad O Various Jr. said: Which might be $1000-1500 fully set up which it isn't Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strad O Various Jr. Posted January 23 Report Share Posted January 23 no Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antero Posted January 23 Report Share Posted January 23 Rather Eur 4000...12 000, then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shelbow Posted January 23 Report Share Posted January 23 24 minutes ago, antero said: Rather Eur 4000...12 000, then. That would be the price on Corilon...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin Kas Posted January 23 Author Report Share Posted January 23 for sale in this condition for 3000E? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antero Posted January 23 Report Share Posted January 23 Maybe Corilon, too. But firstly that would be the price range by Fuchs. For N&H, that is. Five years ago, by the way. Are many things cheaper? How are your energy prices this day ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacobsaunders Posted January 23 Report Share Posted January 23 48 minutes ago, Martin Kas said: for sale in this condition for 3000E? “How much can something cost” is a question that one can only answer with “it depends”. If I were to buy it as it is, in order to transform it to a retail saleable condition, I would have to clean it, retouch the scratches, make a bridge and post, fit new pegs, and a new set of strings, tailpiece, chin rest, check if it needs glueing anywhere, or have any cracks etc. Also it would typically have a stained pear-wood fingerboard, glued on so that the neck stop is a couple of mm short for modern norms, ergo it would be best to make a new ebony fingerboard. Then I would have to find a customer who were willing to buy it, which can also be a lot of work. Having done all of that work, I might hope to market it at around €2,000 incl. VAT. All that considered, my upper limit for buying it in the current rundown condition would be a maximum of about €300 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blank face Posted January 23 Report Share Posted January 23 51 minutes ago, jacobsaunders said: “How much can something cost” is a question that one can only answer with “it depends”. If I were to buy it as it is, in order to transform it to a retail saleable condition, I would have to clean it, retouch the scratches, make a bridge and post, fit new pegs, and a new set of strings, tailpiece, chin rest, check if it needs glueing anywhere, or have any cracks etc. Also it would typically have a stained pear-wood fingerboard, glued on so that the neck stop is a couple of mm short for modern norms, ergo it would be best to make a new ebony fingerboard. Then I would have to find a customer who were willing to buy it, which can also be a lot of work. Having done all of that work, I might hope to market it at around €2,000 incl. VAT. All that considered, my upper limit for buying it in the current rundown condition would be a maximum of about €300 Can't agree more with this. One could add often a neck reset is needed, not to mention overworking old (failed) repairs so that it's more often necessary to open a 100 years old violin than not. The price for "retail" is IMO, in the most venues, actually significantly more than 1,5 K Dollar (what would be a bit more than 1 K Euro, definitely too low), while I would definitely like the idea to get 12 K, but guess that's an illusion. The good thing is that we have some online pricing to compare, and can tell our customers "It's much cheaper than there". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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