Andreas Preuss Posted January 2, 2022 Author Report Share Posted January 2, 2022 7 hours ago, Davide Sora said: What I meant is that doing it freehand and without proportional references (blank sheet) is too difficult if you don't have an innate predisposition and the risk of wasting time is very high. Now I see what you meant. ‘Freehand’ is for me working without grid, but allows of course to sketch some reference points of proportions, yes, just as most skilled drawing artists do. While I think copying on a drawing for example a scroll from a picture is good, I think also that drawing a scroll without a picture is good to form your own ideas and develop a quick judgement where it is necessary to correct lines. This has to become an automatic process. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davide Sora Posted January 3, 2022 Report Share Posted January 3, 2022 10 hours ago, Andreas Preuss said: Now I see what you meant. ‘Freehand’ is for me working without grid, but allows of course to sketch some reference points of proportions, yes, just as most skilled drawing artists do. While I think copying on a drawing for example a scroll from a picture is good, I think also that drawing a scroll without a picture is good to form your own ideas and develop a quick judgement where it is necessary to correct lines. This has to become an automatic process. Yes, what I always suggested as an exercise to students when I taught in school was to simply draw the neck line, the position of the nut and the pegs (whose function cannot be artistic) and draw your scroll and pegbox around them. Another useful exercise was to draw the scroll by tracing over a photograph following the inside line of the chamfer (possibly using a scroll that is not too worn) to get rid of the worn areas and understand the curves of the original model Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mel S. Posted January 3, 2022 Report Share Posted January 3, 2022 On 1/2/2022 at 1:12 AM, Andreas Preuss said: ... @Mel S. I’d give this the prize for drawing in one shot, I couldn’t see any corrections. Just born out of your mind. ... Thank you very much for this prize but I certainly don't deserve it as I corrected my drawing several times. As mentioned above by others it's really difficult to draw something and get the proportions etc. right just out of your imagination, if you aren't used to. It's much easier to copy an image. The trick, as I learned during my art classes at school, is to draw softly till you are satisfied and then to erase all the false lines. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeC Posted January 3, 2022 Report Share Posted January 3, 2022 On 1/1/2022 at 7:12 PM, Andreas Preuss said: @MikeC You are going into pretty difficult waters. That’s the prize for the most ambitious drawing! Trying to make a 3D impression with your own hand on the picture! Wow. And somehow I know the feeling, once you get drawn into it you can’t stop. For your second drawing, that’s a pretty intriguing drawing. I think there were some artists who would blow out your vision with coloring it in wild color combinations. Thanks for the comments Andreas. What amazes me is someone who can draw portraits. I was at a bar one time and there was a girl sitting there drawing the people who were sitting around the bar. Amazingly accurate drawings almost like photographs. It's like playing music I guess, some people just have natural talent, I wish I had that kind of talent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andreas Preuss Posted January 3, 2022 Author Report Share Posted January 3, 2022 3 hours ago, MikeC said: Thanks for the comments Andreas. What amazes me is someone who can draw portraits. I was at a bar one time and there was a girl sitting there drawing the people who were sitting around the bar. Amazingly accurate drawings almost like photographs. It's like playing music I guess, some people just have natural talent, I wish I had that kind of talent. Like anything artistic, the technique can be learned, the genius of ‘violating’ the rules for more expression can’t. proportions is almost everything for realistic drawings . besides: The first drawings of no one other than Vincent Van Gogh were pretty clumsy, too. You should have asked the girl how often and for how many years she was doing this. (i discovered my own ‘talent’ of drawing in Latin class. I was bored like hell by the monologues of my teacher who leaned over his desk almost always in the same position. So I started to take him as a model which was definitely more interesting than his endless musings about Epikur.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andreas Preuss Posted January 3, 2022 Author Report Share Posted January 3, 2022 4 hours ago, Mel S. said: Thank you very much for this prize but I certainly don't deserve it I simply want to encourage violin makers in doing this because it helps for a lot of problems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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