Question on This cello (??)

[Schwartzinc]

Hi does the following button look like there are reminiscent ink marks?

[jacobsaunders]

What is a “reminiscent ink mark”?

[Rue]

I can't tell.  And if there are old marks?  Does it matter?

[Schwartzinc]

1 hour ago, jacobsaunders said:

What is a “reminiscent ink mark”?

An ink mark

[Schwartzinc]

23 minutes ago, Rue said:

I can't tell.  And if there are old marks?  Does it matter?

Does anything really ever matter; its all relative; just of interest.

[Rue]

Well...when you're building something...you make marks...so it could be.

Did you look under a magnifying lens or loupe?  That might help.

[Brad Dorsey]

In the area that you circled I see two marks that look something like lower-case Rs.  Perhaps this is an old rail road cello?

[Schwartzinc]

6 hours ago, Rue said:

Well...when you're building something...you make marks...so it could be.

Did you look under a magnifying lens or loupe?  That might help.

Good idea...I am going to do that...

[Schwartzinc]

2 hours ago, Brad Dorsey said:

In the area that you circled I see two marks that look something like lower-case Rs.  Perhaps this is an old rail road cello?

Brad is that something that was done?

[Eloffe]

Try a uv lamp or torch [blacklight]

[Ron1]

Perhaps of more interest might be the purfling.  Use of the double white center strips could point to certain regional origins, and even possibly particular makers if not "schools".  Do you know the origin or maker of this cello?

[Schwartzinc]

2 hours ago, Eloffe said:

Try a uv lamp or torch [blacklight]

Good idea!

[Schwartzinc]

1 hour ago, Ron1 said:

Perhaps of more interest might be the purfling.  Use of the double white center strips could point to certain regional origins, and even possibly particular makers if not "schools".  Do you know the origin or maker of this cello?

Yea....5 ply purpling (?).....

[PhilipKT]

How about the whole thing?

[jacobsaunders]

10 hours ago, Schwartzinc said:

Yea....5 ply purpling (?).....

I believe you will find that the purfling has nothing to do wit “5 ply purfling”, rather it has the purfling blacks which were stained such that the middle of the “black” stripe has remained grey. This is characteristic of Markneukirchen area Dutzendarbeit of the late 19^th C

[Ron1]

6 hours ago, jacobsaunders said:

I believe you will find that the purfling has nothing to do wit “5 ply purfling”, rather it has the purfling blacks which were stained such that the middle of the “black” stripe has remained grey. This is characteristic of Markneukirchen area Dutzendarbeit of the late 19^th C

I believe this is actually 4-ply purfling, with all plys made equal width.  Two white center plys were used to achieve a wider white "center" purfling.  The technique was used because it was easier/faster to make all purfling strips the same width.

[GeorgeH]

6 hours ago, jacobsaunders said:

which were stained such that the middle of the “black” stripe has remained grey.

Was that deliberately done for asthetics or just a time-saver?

[jacobsaunders]

15 hours ago, GeorgeH said:

Was that deliberately done for asthetics or just a time-saver?

how should I know that?

[Schwartzinc]

23 hours ago, jacobsaunders said:

I believe you will find that the purfling has nothing to do wit “5 ply purfling”, rather it has the purfling blacks which were stained such that the middle of the “black” stripe has remained grey. This is characteristic of Markneukirchen area Dutzendarbeit of the late 19^th C

I am thinking that the photos might be distorted for your review; as dendro leans towards it being an 18th century instrument.

[jacobsaunders]

1 minute ago, Schwartzinc said:

I am thinking that the photos might be distorted for your review; as dendro leans towards it being an 18th century instrument.

I haven't commented on the instrument, since you haven't shown it to us

[GeorgeH]

6 hours ago, jacobsaunders said:

how should I know that?

Because you know a lot.