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Speaking of Juzek(relisted: now w/bow info!)


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3 hours ago, PhilipKT said:

https://www.shopgoodwill.com/Item/128954539
 

i am quite sure that the label is not original to this violin. Hard to tell anything about the bow, too. Someone may well wish they had their $850:back when all is said and done.

I looked at that.  Whoever put that MA label in forgot to add a number and a date.  :lol:

It's at $1,702 with 2 hours to go.  My prediction is $2,302.   I've come to recognize the bidder's handles and there's two bidding that will drive this to ridiculousness... as usual.  

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1 hour ago, Jeny Mahon said:

This happens a lot, we'll probably see it at least one more time.  

Do you think the winning bidder declined it to pay at all? Or do you think they received it and were able to return it? Or is there a particular pattern that you know of at all?

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1 hour ago, Strad O Various Jr. said:

Obviously the winning bidders are one and the same with the seller, its too much evidence to claim there's any doubt left about it IMHO

So the person who owns the violin was bidding against everybody else in an effort to run the price up, but the risk is that you end up buying the violin yourself. And you have to pay both sets of premiums. 
Whoever is doing it doesn’t consider that much of a handicap, but it does seem like a big waste of time

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2 hours ago, Strad O Various Jr. said:

Obviously the winning bidders are one and the same with the seller, its too much evidence to claim there's any doubt left about it IMHO

On eBay this kind of thing can mean trolls, but you can see the bids there (unless it's "private", which can be a red flag) to sort out who has a new account, and who's an old-timer.  When you see some low, or zero, feedback users fighting over something, it's time to sit back, and munch popcorn.  

I saw an auction relist recently, where the seller was so annoyed with the winner who wouldn't pay, that he "doxxed" the guy, in the new photos, phone # and all.  :lol:

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53 minutes ago, Violadamore said:

On eBay this kind of thing can mean trolls, but you can see the bids there (unless it's "private", which can be a red flag) to sort out who has a new account, and who's an old-timer.  When you see some low, or zero, feedback users fighting over something, it's time to sit back, and munch popcorn.  

I saw an auction relist recently, where the seller was so annoyed with the winner who wouldn't pay, that he "doxxed" the guy, in the new photos, phone # and all.  :lol:

Are you saying he doxxed himself? :D

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11 hours ago, Strad O Various Jr. said:

Obviously the winning bidders are one and the same with the seller, its too much evidence to claim there's any doubt left about it IMHO

It is a Goodwill auction, not an eBay auction, so likely not shill bidding by Goodwill workers, which would be illegal and easily discovered.

Buyer's remorse is a common reason for not paying, and the more likely reason here. Exuberant bidders suddenly get sober in the cold light of day when they have to actually pay for the thing.

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I've seen this relisting happen multiple times with Goodwill auctions from this particular source, and as one poster pointed out, he recognises the same people fighting over the highest bidding, Its a common occurrence in small time unregulated auctions, ebay went to great lengths to make shill bidding easier to get away with by hiding all the identities of bidders, seems like Goodwill has shill bidding on steroids IMHO 

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41 minutes ago, Strad O Various Jr. said:

...................goodwill employess are pretty sure to be involved, Goodwill is a very shady company in many respects IMHO

IMHO, speculations like this should be avoided.  Among present company, it's sufficient to note that, "They sell used violins on the Internet".  :ph34r:  :lol:

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