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Ole bull trade violin? Help identify please


Bobby moon
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This was my grandfather’s violin it has ole bull written on tag and a date written in English of may 17 1721. I am trying to figure out if it was a trade violin from Germany or something else.it has been repaired or converted from a shorter neck and the angle has been changed or appears to have been. I have also included pictures of the bows one appears to have been stamped at some point but I can’t make anything out. Any help or information would be appreciated 

body is 14 in total Length is 23.5

width is 8 1/8 at widest point

 

 

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It is certainly not in it's original state: The Norwiegian violinist/composer Ole Bull lived from 1810 -1880  and there is plenty of info. online. Many trade violins were produced bearing his name around 1900 and later. The hand written date might actually be May 17 1921.

 

 

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2 hours ago, jacobsaunders said:

An old Saxon violin 1880ish. The (original) through neck seems to have come adrift. Probably not a commercial proposition to repair

Ditto on that! The fingerboard has already been wedged (with a pretty thick wedge!), and has come loose again. That means a total rebuild of the neck area and removal of the wedge. The pegbox also needs major work. Right now, it looks like the fingerdoard is sitting right on the body, too low to even do a set up to make it playable. We're talking about $1000+ in work to get it playable.

I would just clean it up, and keep it as a nice memento of your Grandfather.

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The neck needs a complete overhaul... make it playable! Sentimental violins are worth every penny... it may be that last real thing that will keep memories and stories alive! It should be restored structurally but not erasing wear & tear and stories to tell.

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20 minutes ago, Mat Roop said:

Sentimental violins are worth every penny

I wish I could agree with this, but it's just not good advice.  If you are a violinist, and can comfortably afford the repairs, then and only then you might not regret it.  Don't toss it, but please be aware of what you're getting into if you choose to repair it.  

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Thanks everyone for the responses and info. I don’t play and have kept it for sentimental reasons. My daughter just started lessons so maybe when it gets passed on to her she may decide to have it repaired. But for me, I am happy that I learned more about its history and origins l.

Thanks again to everyone who responded 

 

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