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I have take better pictures of the heel plate and it seems two pieces and not one.

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the Parramon shop now has told me that they haven't register of this bows but they know that Parramon bought to different bow makers in France.

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Ok it's two pieces, but not in a mitre, we can exclude all the fancy makers now :)

Can you check if the heelplate is fixed with one or two pins and if has a triangle on the ebony on opposite sides?

I'm starting to think it could be a nice JTL bow..

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What is the meaning of this marks? and of the only 1 pin?

I found it marks in the pictures of Tarisio on Lamy and Fetique, but not in Ouchard or JTL.

this Martin Swan Fetique 

https://www.martinswanviolins.com/victor-fetique-violin-bow-1920/#images-2

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This Tarisio Lamy has the marks and the heel plate in 2 pieces.

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This Tarisio Fetique has the two part heel plate and the triangular marks.

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But this pfretzschner in Martin Swan web has the marks too

https://www.martinswanviolins.com/hr-pfretzschner-violin-bow-1920/

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thank you

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15 minutes ago, jandepora said:

What is the meaning of this marks?

@Josh Henry explained them to me in a PM as follows:

"Those notches are from cutting out the pearl slide dovetail. When using a chisel, the maker will run the chisel end-to-end, leaving those notches. This way, in case the grain is not totally straight in the frog blank, the maker can reverse cutting direction so not to chip out the ebony. Most makers (myself included) leave those on the frogs."

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On 6/7/2021 at 11:59 AM, chrissweden said:

Ok it's two pieces, but not in a mitre, we can exclude all the fancy makers now :)

Can you check if the heelplate is fixed with one or two pins and if has a triangle on the ebony on opposite sides?

I'm starting to think it could be a nice JTL bow..

Then, what is the meaning of this marks in this bow? Is more plausible now to determine the maker or shop?

 

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21 hours ago, jandepora said:

Then, what is the meaning of this marks in this bow? Is more plausible now to determine the maker or shop?

 

No, it can be on workshop bows also! I had some higher-end laberte/jtl bows (fricot, e.a brocca, blondelet, sarasate virtuoso) and they also had the nicks. I think your bow is from one of these Mirecourt workshops.

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