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40 minutes ago, duane88 said:

Well, since I do this for a living they are kinda needed...

You would purchase the book out of intellectual curiosity. Or, along the lines of Jeffrey's comments, or not.

140 quid though? Are there actually enough nice old British violins to fill a big book?

 

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37 minutes ago, ofearghail7 said:

Sospiri... Any alternative books you would recommend? 

No. I think that all books are part of either a Capitalist or Counterculturalist conspiracy.

I do have a nice old bookcase though and I had to fill it with something. So I chose a range of books to make me look intelligent. Some quite big on the bottom shelf and quite small on the top shelf. Don't ask me what they are about. 

 

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14 minutes ago, duane88 said:

Yep. And unless you buy the book, you'll never, never know.

So there are some nice British violins? Not just quirky looking ones that sound dreadful? Is this a secret world that no-one told me about?

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2 hours ago, martin swan said:

Quite a rant, and yet I can't actually work out if you're a marxist or a Tory :lol:

I thought in Britain, whatever party was not in power was automatically “the opposition” so it didn’t matter whether you are a this or that, if you’re not the boss, you’re “the opposition.”

sounds like 1984.

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2 minutes ago, PhilipKT said:

I thought in Britain, whatever party was not in power was automatically “the opposition” so it didn’t matter whether you are a this or that, if you’re not the boss, you’re “the opposition.”

sounds like 1984.

It seemed almost believable at the time.

Now it's more like 1984. But who is Big Brother? 

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There are some very beautiful British violins in the book and some very interesting looking ones as well.

I'm definitely a fan of the violins by Daniel Parker. There are many other wonderful makers.

 

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5 hours ago, sospiri said:

Well Jeffrey called me a contrarian and iconoclast. Both lower case. I had to say something.

Do I score Nul Points? 

 

No you didn't. There was an option to say nothing and appear smarter.

9 hours ago, sospiri said:

Someone has to say it though.

Why the heck shouldn't the violin world be more egalitarian? Some parts of the business are ridiculously high priced and other parts ridiculously low priced. Surely change is inevitable and the disparity will be reduced somewhat. Isn't this an economic necessity that is already being implemented?

Specialist texts with excellent pictures on quality paper will inevitably be expensive when compared to The Sun or The Daily Mail.

You also know that there is value in knowledge and skill. You  are blethering for the sake of blethering. Stop and engage your brain. Do you really believe some of the nonsense you write?:wacko:

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6 hours ago, sospiri said:

Well Jeffrey called me a contrarian and iconoclast. Both lower case. I had to say something.

Do I score Nul Points? 

 

Just to be accurate, I said you seem to enjoy playing the contrarian or iconoclast... 

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19 minutes ago, Jeffrey Holmes said:

Just to be accurate, I said 

you seem to enjoy playing the contrarian or iconoclast... 

Very adroitly stated.

I guess that's why you get the big bucks as site moderator in chief? :P 

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8 hours ago, Televet said:

No you didn't. There was an option to say nothing and appear smarter.

Specialist texts with excellent pictures on quality paper will inevitably be expensive when compared to The Sun or The Daily Mail.

You also know that there is value in knowledge and skill. You  are blethering for the sake of blethering. Stop and engage your brain. Do you really believe some of the nonsense you write?:wacko:

Or maybe I have an actual point to make and the printing process is 20 years out of date?

Maybe you should ask around a bit and see that these disparities I point out actually exist in a reality outside of yours?

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14 hours ago, sospiri said:

140 quid though? Are there actually enough nice old British violins to fill a big book?

 

It’s hard to know if this is serious question, or you just like to take the piss.

The book is the catalogue of an exhibition, which was held to celebrate 400 years of making in Britain. Featuring violins, violas, cellos, basses, viols and bows from the 1660s onwards, along with a selection of contemporary makers. 416 pages in all.

It includes biographies of the makers represented, along with information about London in the past, supported by documents, old maps and historical context. There are notes on construction techniques, even details of period set-up, neck lengths and bass bars.

Why you think there are no nice British violins, is a mystery. Even if only the workers from the Betts shop were considered, that one workshop covers a large number of excellent makers.
The same applies to the Forster workshop, Thomas Dodd, Hill’s and so on.

 

On 6/2/2021 at 1:41 PM, sospiri said:

£140 is it printed on very special paper?

Yes, the paper is very good quality. When first published, the book cost more than £140.00

Don’t forget to add David Rattray’s excellent book on Scottish makers to the list, to further your British collection. This is also printed on very good quality paper, if you are concerned.

If you only want to spend a small amount of money, get a copy of the British violin dictionary by Dennis Plowright.

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1 minute ago, Dave Slight said:

It’s hard to know if this is serious question, or you just like to take the piss.

A bit of both Dave. I was replying to Jacob and you know how that goes.

Thank you for the information.

 

 

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21 minutes ago, sospiri said:

A bit of both Dave. I was replying to Jacob and you know how that goes.

Thank you for the information.

 

 

If you’re not interested in violins, I’m sure you could find an online forum discussing the best way to crochet a willy warmer, or whatever else takes your fancy

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6 minutes ago, jacobsaunders said:

If you’re not interested in violins, I’m sure you could find an online forum discussing the best way to crochet a willy warmer, or whatever else takes your fancy

Is that your sideline? 

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One reason I would find it hard to justify paying the very high prices that violin books command is explaining it to my wife. She  already thinks I have an unhealthy obsession with violins.

But on the other hand violin books do seem to hold there prices quite well, so that might help convince her. :unsure:

That leads to a question ........ in the  violin trade are violin books seen as a little pension pot investment to be sold at retirement to help fund a holiday or something ?

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10 hours ago, skelly said:

Mr. Burgess posts continuously about screwing  sheep. I've often wondered if he saves the big one for his daughter. And you have a problem with Sospiri?

I think I'm allowed to have a problem with more than one contributor at a time. 

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1 hour ago, Delabo said:

One reason I would find it hard to justify paying the very high prices that violin books command is explaining it to my wife. She  already thinks I have an unhealthy obsession with violins.

The books are cheaper than the violins in them. :-)

I use my reference books regularly for comparing and studying violins and bows. They can be as or more helpful than even the auction house archives. The British Violin book is very nice. 

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