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Actually the metal of the ferrule and the metal of the adjuster look different ...

The frog is German, the stick too in my view. Whether everything belongs together is another matter. The collar of the adjuster looks a it small for the stick.

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3 hours ago, Strad O Various Jr. said:

I'm not sure the bow is old enough for that to be genuine whalebone, i'm not sure if we can tell if the whalebone is real or not from the pictures we are given here.

If you look at the second photo in the original post you can see that's it's whalebone. Plastic is much more consistent in colour, it's more perfectly half-round, and it doesn't kink so much around the facets of the stick.

Whalebone was used right up to the 1970s, whereas the tramline slide to the frog is more of a pre-1940 thing.

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16 hours ago, martin swan said:

Actually the metal of the ferrule and the metal of the adjuster look different ...

The frog is German, the stick too in my view. Whether everything belongs together is another matter. The collar of the adjuster looks a it small for the stick.

What’s the significance between the ferrule and the adjuster being dissimilar in appearance based on possible variation in alloy content? 

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I would avoid in this regards words like "student" or "master/professionel" but rather say it's a Markneukirchen shop bow, made in the usual division of labour. The head follows a very common model of the period, which is often seen at bows from the CA Hoyer shop but was also used by many others; the frog was most probably made by one of the specialist suppliers, what was also very common. Features like the slightly irregular metal ring around the pearl eye are pointing to a not bad nor top quality, the wood looks good and overall workmanship ok. There's IMO no hard evidence that the parts don't go together, adjuster buttons of a smaller diameter than the stick were quite common at German bows of the period (in between the wars), also a not 100% fit of the frog due to the division of labour, as well as differences in the metal colour. At least it won't make a big difference as long as it's working well, because these kind of bows aren't of a greater value anyway.

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8 hours ago, shunkpenn said:

What’s the significance between the ferrule and the adjuster being dissimilar in appearance based on possible variation in alloy content? 

Almost certainly the adjuster is not original to the bow.  The adjuster is nickel, and the frog fittings are silver.

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21 minutes ago, Brad Dorsey said:

Almost certainly the adjuster is not original to the bow.  The adjuster is nickel, and the frog fittings are silver.

OK...now I understand. I assumed it was nickel mounted from the earlier post. 

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On 5/30/2021 at 5:55 AM, LouisXVI said:

Even better, why is it a student's bow and not a proffesional one?

 

On 5/30/2021 at 8:38 AM, martin swan said:

That would be a question for Wood Butcher ...

To me, from the pictures currently provided, it looks to be a mid-century, or slightly earlier German bow, mounted in nickel.
These are a commonly encountered type of bow, clearly made in significant numbers, and done to a price (I guess all bows are made to a price, but I think you will understand what I mean).

They can be good, the wood for the sticks is often decent enough, but I have never seen any professional orchestra player here using such a bow. Therefore, I would describe it as a student bow.
Professional could mean many things, however. Teaching children to play three blind mice, if this was your paid profession, and you used this bow, could conceivably lead to be it being suitable for professional use, but this is not what I was thinking of.

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