Shelbow Posted June 24, 2022 Author Report Share Posted June 24, 2022 TW Gaze now up (UK) TWGaze - June 30th (2022) - Musical Instruments - https://auctions.twgaze.co.uk/catalogue/3850c64ef5a5c0a687c64f18f198a341/8a390ef7ce02b4a94fa666f3e767067e/musical-instruments/?maxResults=120 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shelbow Posted July 4, 2022 Author Report Share Posted July 4, 2022 The full catalogue for this French auction is up now, seem to be a few violins listed. (FRANCE) Pousse-Cronet - July 11th (2022) - Musical Instruments - https://www.interencheres.com/meubles-objets-art/instruments-scientifiques-objets-de-curiosite-jouets-objets-publicitaires-plaques-emaillees-instruments-de-musique-305878/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shelbow Posted July 12, 2022 Author Report Share Posted July 12, 2022 Updated the list a bit. Still some good auctions coming up in the second part of the year! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shelbow Posted July 13, 2022 Author Report Share Posted July 13, 2022 Couple of items for sale on this french auction ending tomorrow. (FRANCE) Bayeux Encheres - July 14th (2022) - Musical Instruments - https://www.interencheres.com/meubles-objets-art/importante-vente-aux-encheres-publiques-ancienne-collection-gerard-dubuisson-1935-2020-311861/?page=3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shelbow Posted July 15, 2022 Author Report Share Posted July 15, 2022 Amati catalogue now up! https://app.amati.com/en/auction/1092-amati-affordable-27th-july Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike99 Posted July 16, 2022 Report Share Posted July 16, 2022 7 hours ago, Shelbow said: Amati catalogue now up! https://app.amati.com/en/auction/1092-amati-affordable-27th-july Thank you Shelbow. I notice that Amati no longer provides condition reports. Why is that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shelbow Posted July 16, 2022 Author Report Share Posted July 16, 2022 8 hours ago, Mike99 said: Thank you Shelbow. I notice that Amati no longer provides condition reports. Why is that? The condition reports sometimes arrive a few days later. I'm sure they will be up by early next week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shelbow Posted July 18, 2022 Author Report Share Posted July 18, 2022 Bromptons is up (UK) Bromptons - July 25th (2022) - Musical Instruments - https://www.bromptons.co/auction/18th-25th-july-2022/list/page-1.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shelbow Posted July 25, 2022 Author Report Share Posted July 25, 2022 Bromptons sale ending today and Amati ending on the 27th. It's the quiet time for auctions so not much going on at the moment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shelbow Posted July 26, 2022 Author Report Share Posted July 26, 2022 Bromptons after sale now up. https://www.bromptons.co/auction/18th-25th-july-2022/list/page-1.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shelbow Posted July 27, 2022 Author Report Share Posted July 27, 2022 the Amati auction finishes today. This is the last big ish UK auction now until pretty much the end of Summer (August/September) https://app.amati.com/en/auction/1092-amati-affordable-27th-july/detail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shelbow Posted July 29, 2022 Author Report Share Posted July 29, 2022 Mehlis auction up now. Small catalogue but better than nothing. (GERMANY) Mehlis - August 25th (2022) - Musical Instruments - https://www.mehlis.eu/de/catalogs/10722/102/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoPractice Posted July 29, 2022 Report Share Posted July 29, 2022 53 minutes ago, Shelbow said: Mehlis auction up now. Small catalogue but better than nothing. (GERMANY) Mehlis - August 25th (2022) - Musical Instruments - https://www.mehlis.eu/de/catalogs/10722/102/ The Oddone is interesting. Not saying the one at Mehlis is a reproduction. What are other's opinions or thoughts on reproductions ( fakes ) where the bidders know? Oddone is often copied. Do not know the numbers, but have seen enough to be surprised. Not an unbranded Roth, but am surprised. It's not for the quality. Have seen branded Oddone that on scrutiny, visually better than some Roccas. I worked in one shop where there were two real Oddone instruments. There was a fake that played well in the shop, which I considered purchasing... The twist/ irony in the situation was why the shop owner considered pricing the reproduction so high, when he knew it was a fake. I understood, as it sounded great, that it was very well made But what is the value of the fake? Priced as a lesser instrument, I would have made the purchase, no matter how starving I was as a performer and shop worker, if the price were something affordable. There are layers of issues here, but can anyone be very specific as to the whys of the reasoning? The side bar: One Oddone was a blond-ish orange in color. There was another blondish instrument in the store which sounded great at less than half the value, a little weather worn. I would show the instrument, but the client often would dismiss the instrument. Are golden yellow instruments lesser in value? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gowan Posted July 31, 2022 Report Share Posted July 31, 2022 On 7/29/2022 at 7:51 PM, GoPractice said: The Oddone is interesting. Not saying the one at Mehlis is a reproduction. What are other's opinions or thoughts on reproductions ( fakes ) where the bidders know? Oddone is often copied. Do not know the numbers, but have seen enough to be surprised. Not an unbranded Roth, but am surprised. It's not for the quality. Have seen branded Oddone that on scrutiny, visually better than some Roccas. I worked in one shop where there were two real Oddone instruments. There was a fake that played well in the shop, which I considered purchasing... The twist/ irony in the situation was why the shop owner considered pricing the reproduction so high, when he knew it was a fake. I understood, as it sounded great, that it was very well made But what is the value of the fake? Priced as a lesser instrument, I would have made the purchase, no matter how starving I was as a performer and shop worker, if the price were something affordable. There are layers of issues here, but can anyone be very specific as to the whys of the reasoning? The side bar: One Oddone was a blond-ish orange in color. There was another blondish instrument in the store which sounded great at less than half the value, a little weather worn. I would show the instrument, but the client often would dismiss the instrument. Are golden yellow instruments lesser in value? If the maker(s) of the fakes were known the instrument might acquire value if the fakers made excellent instruments. I'm thinking particularly of the Voller brothers. However, there were Italian makers who made excellent instruments that were fakes of more famous/desirable makers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shelbow Posted July 31, 2022 Author Report Share Posted July 31, 2022 On 7/30/2022 at 12:51 AM, GoPractice said: The Oddone is interesting. Not saying the one at Mehlis is a reproduction. What are other's opinions or thoughts on reproductions ( fakes ) where the bidders know? Oddone is often copied. Do not know the numbers, but have seen enough to be surprised. Not an unbranded Roth, but am surprised. It's not for the quality. Have seen branded Oddone that on scrutiny, visually better than some Roccas. I worked in one shop where there were two real Oddone instruments. There was a fake that played well in the shop, which I considered purchasing... The twist/ irony in the situation was why the shop owner considered pricing the reproduction so high, when he knew it was a fake. I understood, as it sounded great, that it was very well made But what is the value of the fake? Priced as a lesser instrument, I would have made the purchase, no matter how starving I was as a performer and shop worker, if the price were something affordable. There are layers of issues here, but can anyone be very specific as to the whys of the reasoning? The side bar: One Oddone was a blond-ish orange in color. There was another blondish instrument in the store which sounded great at less than half the value, a little weather worn. I would show the instrument, but the client often would dismiss the instrument. Are golden yellow instruments lesser in value? It's not really doing anything for me personally, but I'm sure it will be nice for someone. I am always a bit hestistant about some of these more modern instruments. The Carcassi labelled violin looks interesting. I really like the look of this viola https://www.mehlis.eu/de/catalogs/10722/item/247/ People are just greedy sometimes, they will try to make as much money as they can in anyway possible and they will try to find any justification for it that they can. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoPractice Posted August 1, 2022 Report Share Posted August 1, 2022 22 hours ago, Shelbow said: ( ... ) People are just greedy sometimes, they will try to make as much money as they can in anyway possible and they will try to find any justification for it that they can. Thank you for all your work. In an instance, it is possible to keep track of the dealer marketplace. It is appreciated. Not much reporting from Vichy... most instruments should have been delivered. I think greed plays into the big picture. The dealer never paid his workers very well. I deserved being placed out on the picnic bench out by the shed fending off squirrels, but there were underpaid workers, indoors, near the stove and Bob Cratchit. For client "educational" purposes, there were always fine and bad examples of instruments of every country. It helped show details in workmanship, sound and general observations in a confusing shop with hundreds of instruments. Wonder if the copy/ fake was kept for educational purposes. The price was about the same as a nice French factory instrument from the 1900s. This was not a bench copy nor a reproduction. Compared to the real things, flawed, and not that great. But was branded and without the originals, many wanted to play the instrument. I have yet to see a Voller exhibition. Would be quite an education for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shelbow Posted August 3, 2022 Author Report Share Posted August 3, 2022 Tarisio T2 now up (USA) Tarisio T2 - August (2022) - Musical Instruments - https://t2-auctions.com/auctions/?csid=2199748608 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shelbow Posted August 12, 2022 Author Report Share Posted August 12, 2022 New Amati now up. (UK) Amati - August 24-25th (2022) - single owner / Makers Sale - https://app.amati.com/en/auction/1093-single-owner-collection-the-makers-sale-24th-25th-august Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shelbow Posted August 18, 2022 Author Report Share Posted August 18, 2022 A few of the guitar Gardiner catalogues are up now. (UK) Gardiner Houlgate - September 7th (2022) - Guitars - https://auctions.gardinerhoulgate.co.uk/catalogue/5aa0a0ce77824ba9ec62deafac592d2e/63b778f7668dabe928d3800924a99077/the-guitar-auction-four-day-sale-including-guitars-artist/ (UK) Gardiner Houlgate - September 8th (2022) - Guitars - https://auctions.gardinerhoulgate.co.uk/catalogue/5aa0a0ce77824ba9ec62deafac592d2e/aa3256dfaa581b83dd9a740d7ec8e30d/the-guitar-auction-four-day-sale-including-guitars-artist/ (UK) Gardiner Houlgate - September 9th (2022) - Musical Instruments - https://auctions.gardinerhoulgate.co.uk/catalogue/5aa0a0ce77824ba9ec62deafac592d2e/3dfe96b3d8514009372b34ed949e473e/the-guitar-auction-four-day-sale-including-guitars-artist/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shelbow Posted August 23, 2022 Author Report Share Posted August 23, 2022 The main musical instrument catalogue is up now: (UK) Gardiner Houlgate - September 9th (2022) - Musical Instruments https://auctions.gardinerhoulgate.co.uk/catalogue/1473ce30be0cb54414d5cc89c1833ac0/63b778f7668dabe928d3800924a99077/musical-instruments/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shelbow Posted September 2, 2022 Author Report Share Posted September 2, 2022 Bromptons up (UK) Brompton's - September 12th (2022) - Musical Instruments - https://www.bromptons.co/auction/2nd-12th-september-2022/list/page-1.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shelbow Posted September 16, 2022 Author Report Share Posted September 16, 2022 Tennants auction is up (UK) Tennants - September 28th (2022) - Musical Instruments (Affordable) - https://auctions.tennants.co.uk/auction/details/sc53-scientific--musical-instruments-cameras--tools/?au=13978 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shelbow Posted September 16, 2022 Author Report Share Posted September 16, 2022 New auction (UK) David Lay - September 29th (2022) - Musical Instruments - https://www.davidlay.co.uk/auction/details/mu01-all-things-music/?au=176 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shelbow Posted September 20, 2022 Author Report Share Posted September 20, 2022 Two vichy catalogues now up (FRANCE) Vichy - September 28th (2022) - Musical Instruments - https://www.interencheres.com/meubles-objets-art/vente-en-live-a-14-h-lutherie-detude-314117/ (FRANCE) Vichy - September 29th (2022) - Musical Instruments - https://www.interencheres.com/meubles-objets-art/vente-en-live-a-14-h-lutherie-detude-314120/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shelbow Posted September 22, 2022 Author Report Share Posted September 22, 2022 Amati now up https://app.amati.com/en/auction/1094-four-decades-of-instrument-collecting-part-1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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