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P J Lester

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2 hours ago, Violadamore said:

  The lack of any sign of purfling is complicating things for me, 

Does it? I find that hard to judge from out of focus pictures

I presume that it i a late 19th C Markneukirchen area "Dutzendarneit", although I would wish some sharper pictures to telln for certain

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1 hour ago, martin swan said:

The purfling is pretty visible where the varnish isn't too think ie. top right of the table.

Also top right bout of the back. The purfling appears to have very thin black strips, if they are present at all. Not very Markneukirchen-like.



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1 minute ago, martin swan said:

I could be mistaken, but on the table I would expect to see those very strong grain lines in the spruce travelling through if it was merely inked ...

Everything else about the violin looks late 19thC MK/Sch to me.

I agree the purfling is real (not inked nor etched); I am just used to seeing thicker black strips. 

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17 hours ago, Rue said:

No. There was a time the "black" varnish was popular.

Possibly some darkened even more over time?

Yes, but..


14 hours ago, Spelman said:

Ah, thanks for the clarification. I thought it was merely called f--ked up.

 The black stuff is fugly. And it obliterates the

On 5/10/2021 at 7:18 AM, jacobsaunders said:

nice purfling:)

The varnish underneath is nice too.


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The varnish on the OP violin is a bog standard finish that one can see often on cheap “Dutzendarbeiten”, and certainly nothing worthy of any long dissertation or discussion. The dark varnish that Bass Clef likes, is more the sort prevalent in Vienna and many other Füssen diaspora regions from about 1730 until about 1815 and is of an entirely superior nature

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