vio.lino Posted March 14, 2021 Report Share Posted March 14, 2021 This is a bow I’m seriously considering. I’m worried that there is a lot of wear, the eyes on the frog are almost gone, and there is a crack on the ivory plate. Any thoughts on value and how I should proceed in purchasing? Thank you guys! I appreciate it always! https://imgur.com/gallery/B7Jkj2v Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martin swan Posted March 14, 2021 Report Share Posted March 14, 2021 From what I can see there is very little wear ... Are you sure the face is cracked rather than just dented? Even if it is cracked, replacing the face or even the pearl would not devalue a bow like this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dwight Brown Posted March 14, 2021 Report Share Posted March 14, 2021 It looks quite nice. It may need a new tip plate but I really cannot tell from the picture. How does it play and how much are they asking? Nice that the owner put some clear tape on the stamp. DLB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deans Posted March 14, 2021 Report Share Posted March 14, 2021 The ivory tip can be replaced, they crack from time to time, and it shouldn't affect the value. And it would be a good time to put a non-ivory tip in place in case you want to travel with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vio.lino Posted March 14, 2021 Author Report Share Posted March 14, 2021 Here are some more pictures of the crack of the ivory plate. I said wear because the pearl eyes are really recessed and the stamp on the frog is very faint, not as strong as others I have seen. The bow plays very, maybe a little frog heavy, but a great bow nonetheless Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scordatura Posted March 15, 2021 Report Share Posted March 15, 2021 That is a very common place for the ivory face to crack on the tip. Can be caused by a bow plug that is slightly too wide. The bow looks in decent shape. Used to own a bow just like it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vio.lino Posted March 16, 2021 Author Report Share Posted March 16, 2021 Thank you for all of the help. What would you value it at? The seller is asking for $3900 USD Also, is there a reason why Richard Grunke seems less esteemed than his son Klaus? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Bress Posted March 16, 2021 Report Share Posted March 16, 2021 Many high quality bow makers are priced ~$4500 for their new work, including Richard and Klaus Grunke. At $3900 for a modern bow I would look for bows in excellent condition, or commission directly from the maker. My 2 cents. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacobsaunders Posted March 16, 2021 Report Share Posted March 16, 2021 23 minutes ago, Jim Bress said: Many high quality bow makers are priced ~$4500 for their new work, including Richard and Klaus Grunke. At $3900 for a modern bow I would look for bows in excellent condition, or commission directly from the maker. My 2 cents. Richard Grünke is no longer alive, so you will only be able to buy a second hand one, unless Klaus has some of his fathers left over. It would have been better to ask Klaus, rather than the Maestronet forum anyway richard.gruenke@t-online.de Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fiddlecollector Posted March 16, 2021 Report Share Posted March 16, 2021 Jacob, when did Richard die? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacobsaunders Posted March 16, 2021 Report Share Posted March 16, 2021 A few years ago, sorry can't remember exactly now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Bress Posted March 16, 2021 Report Share Posted March 16, 2021 1 minute ago, jacobsaunders said: A few years ago, sorry can't remember exactly now Sad to hear. My last correspondence with Richard Grunke was in July 2019. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacobsaunders Posted March 16, 2021 Report Share Posted March 16, 2021 You all have me worried now that I might have got him mixed up with someone else Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fiddlecollector Posted March 16, 2021 Report Share Posted March 16, 2021 I was corresponding with Klaus just before Brexit new year.I had the impression he (Richard) was still around though he would be 91 now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martin swan Posted March 16, 2021 Report Share Posted March 16, 2021 4 hours ago, vio.lino said: Thank you for all of the help. What would you value it at? The seller is asking for $3900 USD Also, is there a reason why Richard Grunke seems less esteemed than his son Klaus? A. it seems a very low price for a gold mounted Grünke .... B. I don't think this is the case Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vathek Posted March 16, 2021 Report Share Posted March 16, 2021 How much does it weigh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vio.lino Posted March 16, 2021 Author Report Share Posted March 16, 2021 I thought Richard was still alive, my condolences to his family. The bow plays very well and I feel like it has the weight to draw out a more full sound. The bow weighs 62.3 grams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vio.lino Posted March 16, 2021 Author Report Share Posted March 16, 2021 8 hours ago, jacobsaunders said: You all have me worried now that I might have got him mixed up with someone else Richard is alive, I just got an email from Klaus! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rue Posted March 16, 2021 Report Share Posted March 16, 2021 I'm sure Richard is very happy to have that confirmed! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacobsaunders Posted March 16, 2021 Report Share Posted March 16, 2021 yes, thank goodness Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Burgess Posted March 16, 2021 Report Share Posted March 16, 2021 13 minutes ago, vio.lino said: Richard is alive, I just got an email from Klaus! Can you be certain that they didn't just prop up one who is deceased for a photo-op? There's quite a history of folks doing things like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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