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It can be a bit tricky to judge the originality of the inside work by this photos. The colour might appear brighter or darker depending of the angle of light. But at least the linings seem to be later, the knife marks are visble not only over the blocks but also down at the ribs. The rib joints are clearly pinched with a relative steep angle, it's also visible at the photo you posted (a bit larger below), and here I can't see a groove at the bottom plate. The ends of the joint arenearly flush with the plate corner either. It's impossible to be sure by the actual photos if the corner blocks are original or aren't.

So the ribs were definitely made built on the back. Though the one piece bottom rib is usually seen at inside mould or old French "over preinstalled blocks" constructions, there are nonetheless a few Markneukirchen makers using this feature regulary, for example Hamm. So this won't exclude a Saxony/Bohemian origin an any way, but grooves for the ribs would. So if there are grooves one should look in the schools using this methods, British, French, some Dutch and more; otherwise I'm still seeing the greatest resemblance to some Vogtlandish makers (for the body, not the scroll).

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21 hours ago, Blank face said:

At the photo I showe in the post above there seems to be a shallow groove for the ribs visible at the end of the bottom corner (left side). Can you confirm this, or is it just a trick of the photo?

Indeed, there does. Here is detail on that and a couple of areas where back/rib wear reveal construction.

Thoughts?

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4 hours ago, Bruce Carlson said:

is it possible to have a straight on front view  and a straight on side view of the volute (scroll)? Thanks.

And maybe straight flush, upright and complete views of front, back and sides, too. I don't know if the LOB was given before, but this would be good to know either.

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4 hours ago, Blank face said:

And maybe straight flush, upright and complete views of front, back and sides, too. I don't know if the LOB was given before, but this would be good to know either.

 

7 minutes ago, bridgeshome said:

Here you go.

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LOB = 354 mm

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Thanks. At least it seems to confirm that the scroll belongs to the rest. The bottom shading looks in this photos more similar to some Mirecourtish violins from the early 19th century, for example some of the "Marquis del'Air" branded type. So one might assume that the biggest probability is a Mirecourt shop instrument with some unusual features (shape of the corners, missing bottom cleats etc.) and of a somehow smaller size than it was common there during the period.

Now you should do something about the damaged pegbox heel and the ugly repair zone in the lower bass bout. It also looks as if the neck is rather lopsided.

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6 hours ago, Blank face said:

Thanks. At least it seems to confirm that the scroll belongs to the rest. The bottom shading looks in this photos more similar to some Mirecourtish violins from the early 19th century, for example some of the "Marquis del'Air" branded type. So one might assume that the biggest probability is a Mirecourt shop instrument with some unusual features (shape of the corners, missing bottom cleats etc.) and of a somehow smaller size than it was common there during the period.

Now you should do something about the damaged pegbox heel and the ugly repair zone in the lower bass bout. It also looks as if the neck is rather lopsided.

@Blank face There appears to be some consensus regarding the Mirecourt connection. I sincerely appreciate the time that members have generously given to perusing the (many) photos and the back and forth dialog between you has been interesting, to say the least.

Yes, I have made inquiries to an extremely talented and highly regarded luthier in this region and am waiting to make an appointment for him to assess the work - including the items you mentioned.

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