bridgeshome Posted February 25 Report Share Posted February 25 (edited) Had this surprise find in an old, otherwise empty violin case of my dad’s. I have no paperwork or any idea of its provenance or what he paid for it. I’m coming up blank as far as finding info with Web searches. Any thoughts/information would be greatly appreciated. Thank you, Dave Edited February 25 by bridgeshome Typos, additional photos Quote Link to post Share on other sites
palousian Posted February 25 Report Share Posted February 25 Hi bridgeshome, welcome! Not a bow expert (just a user...) but this sure looks good to me; the wrapping especially is nice. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bridgeshome Posted February 25 Author Report Share Posted February 25 Additional photos added for detail. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PhilipKT Posted February 25 Report Share Posted February 25 It’s worthless.… Send it to me. I will be happy to dispose of it for you. :-) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bridgeshome Posted February 25 Author Report Share Posted February 25 42 minutes ago, PhilipKT said: It’s worthless.… Send it to me. I will be happy to dispose of it for you. :-) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bridgeshome Posted February 25 Author Report Share Posted February 25 Well, will you at least cover the shipping? ;) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
nathan slobodkin Posted February 26 Report Share Posted February 26 3 hours ago, PhilipKT said: It’s worthless.… Send it to me. I will be happy to dispose of it for you. :-) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
nathan slobodkin Posted February 26 Report Share Posted February 26 Bridges, Those pictures are not very helpful. Profile views of the head and frog and pictures which clearly show details of the head chamfer, the button and collar, straight on rear of the frog, under slide, mortise and the stamps would all be good. I have lot of trouble with pictures myself but one trick I have learned is that a light gray background is better than white and that clothes pins can hold the bow in the needed positions. This is possibly a commercial Mirecourt bow but without better pictures it's hard to tell. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bungling_amateur Posted February 26 Report Share Posted February 26 12 hours ago, PhilipKT said: It’s worthless.… Send it to me. I will be happy to dispose of it for you. :-) Did you never read / see Roald Dahl's Tales of the Unexpected "Parson's Pleasure" about the Chippendale commode? The antiques dealer tells the owner that it is worthless, "firewood", but he would give them £20 because it had pretty legs. You can guess what happened when he turned up with his van to take it away... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PhilipKT Posted February 26 Report Share Posted February 26 10 hours ago, bungling_amateur said: Did you never read / see Roald Dahl's Tales of the Unexpected "Parson's Pleasure" about the Chippendale commode? The antiques dealer tells the owner that it is worthless, "firewood", but he would give them £20 because it had pretty legs. You can guess what happened when he turned up with his van to take it away... No I have not, and I am going to definitely look it up in return I will recommend that you look up the original Chitty-chitty bang bang, Which is a tremendous story that was completely ruined by Disney, and we will never ever see a video representation of the real thing Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Blank face Posted February 26 Report Share Posted February 26 It's a French Mirecourt bow from roughly mid 20th century, nicely figured pernambuco and nickel mounted. Maybe something like Morizot or Laberte. The headplate needs to be replaced and the whole stick carefully examined for cracks or other damages, otherwise not bad. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
martin swan Posted February 26 Report Share Posted February 26 1 hour ago, Blank face said: It's a French Mirecourt bow from roughly mid 20th century, nicely figured pernambuco and nickel mounted. Maybe something like Morizot or Laberte. Agreed, made for the American market, I might put it a bit earlier around 1930-40 .... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bridgeshome Posted February 26 Author Report Share Posted February 26 21 hours ago, nathan slobodkin said: Bridges, Those pictures are not very helpful. Profile views of the head and frog and pictures which clearly show details of the head chamfer, the button and collar, straight on rear of the frog, under slide, mortise and the stamps would all be good. I have lot of trouble with pictures myself but one trick I have learned is that a light gray background is better than white and that clothes pins can hold the bow in the needed positions. This is possibly a commercial Mirecourt bow but without better pictures it's hard to tell. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bridgeshome Posted February 26 Author Report Share Posted February 26 Posted a few, new photos using Nathan’s guidelines and the clothespin trick. I subsequently learned that I need to take these shots dead-on, so apologies for this newbie who is still getting there. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
nathan slobodkin Posted February 27 Report Share Posted February 27 Much better photos. I agree with Blank Face and Martin (I would have deferred to their opinion any way). Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bridgeshome Posted February 27 Author Report Share Posted February 27 Thanks, all! I sincerely appreciate your expertise and qualified opinions. This info helps a lot. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
martin swan Posted February 27 Report Share Posted February 27 Doesn't look like Pernambuco ... though probably PhilipKT will still want it to supplement his burgeoning collection of tomato stakes. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Blank face Posted February 27 Report Share Posted February 27 38 minutes ago, martin swan said: Doesn't look like Pernambuco ... At the first photo it looks like flamed pernambuco, strange. But the other photos are revealing that it's Abeille wood. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
GeorgeH Posted February 27 Report Share Posted February 27 43 minutes ago, martin swan said: burgeoning collection of tomato stakes. In anticipation of spring planting, which end goes in the ground? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Blank face Posted February 27 Report Share Posted February 27 4 minutes ago, GeorgeH said: In anticipation of spring planting, which end goes in the ground? Break off the head so you'll get a point to hammer it into the ground. Though I won't do it with the OP bow, if there's no other damage than the broken headplate. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Spelman Posted February 27 Report Share Posted February 27 31 minutes ago, Blank face said: ...if there's no other damage than the broken headplate. Isn't the ferrule on the player's side gacked up? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
fiddlecollector Posted February 27 Report Share Posted February 27 It is pernambuco Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Blank face Posted February 27 Report Share Posted February 27 30 minutes ago, fiddlecollector said: It is pernambuco Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Blank face Posted February 27 Report Share Posted February 27 1 hour ago, Spelman said: Isn't the ferrule on the player's side gacked up? Could be, but could be also a deep scratch. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
martin swan Posted February 27 Report Share Posted February 27 23 hours ago, bridgeshome said: You're sure this is pernambuco? If so it seems very poor quality ... It seems strange to me that a Mirecourt bow that's so hurriedly made would be pernambuco. But I don't really know exactly how to distinguish so would be glad to learn ... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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