Blank face Posted February 21 Report Share Posted February 21 33 minutes ago, Delabo said: It at least shows that this style of f-hole was known in Scotland in the 16th century. It also is showing that 16th century scottish people had very small heads and extremely long necks, while their arms and hands were thick, long and very broad. Or alternatively it shows absolutely nothing one should rely on. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Thomas Knight Posted February 21 Author Report Share Posted February 21 Removed the top. There are two pinholes on the back about 30mm from the top and bottom edge. Tiny corner blocks, carved out bassbar, ribs cut into neck block. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Thomas Knight Posted February 21 Author Report Share Posted February 21 11 minutes ago, jacobsaunders said: Yes, my ancestors come from Scotland, so it’s no surprise that it’s rotten with Saunders’s there Some of us will admit our ancestry is Scottish. MY father's birth surname was McClintic which was changed to Knight after a family, ahem, disagreement. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
martin swan Posted February 21 Report Share Posted February 21 23 minutes ago, jacobsaunders said: Yes, my ancestors come from Scotland, so it’s no surprise that it’s rotten with Saunders’s there Hoochin' wi' Saunders .... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Wood Butcher Posted February 21 Report Share Posted February 21 19 minutes ago, Blank face said: It also is showing that 16th century scottish people had very small heads and extremely long necks Just like the Loch Ness Monster. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Delabo Posted February 21 Report Share Posted February 21 1 hour ago, Blank face said: It also is showing that 16th century scottish people had very small heads and extremely long necks, while their arms and hands were thick, long and very broad. Or alternatively it shows absolutely nothing one should rely on. Are your referring to the man in the picture David Rizzio ? He was Italian, not Scottish. He came from Italy to live in Scotland. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Delabo Posted February 21 Report Share Posted February 21 So now the top is off is it Salzkammergut or British ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Thomas Knight Posted February 21 Author Report Share Posted February 21 This French book has an instrument that looks so similar--extra long scroll with teeny scroll, f-holes that are not parallel, but canted in the wrong direction. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Blank face Posted February 21 Report Share Posted February 21 4 hours ago, Wood Butcher said: Just like the Loch Ness Monster. No. This picture is showing Nessy with it's correct proportions. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Blank face Posted February 21 Report Share Posted February 21 3 hours ago, Delabo said: Are your referring to the man in the picture David Rizzio ? He was Italian, not Scottish. He came from Italy to live in Scotland. Just because he came from Italy doesn't mean that he was able to paint a person with right body dimensions nor violins with realistic f holes. The same applies to the schematic scratch from "the French book" (whatever this is). Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Thomas Knight Posted February 21 Author Report Share Posted February 21 13 minutes ago, Blank face said: Just because he came from Italy doesn't mean that he was able to paint a person with right body dimensions nor violins with realistic f holes. The same applies to the schematic scratch from "the French book" (whatever this is). Should have given the title. Marin Mersenne's Harmonicorum Instrumentorum, Paris, 1636. It is from Ben Hebbert's Violin making in Northern Europe in the time of the Amatis: Part 2. I was researching English violins of the 17th Century when the article came up. I has thinking some amateur with only a drawing made the instrument. I know it was common to find 19th and early 20th c American violins made from books with drawings. I had at one time a few American violins with the book's drawings they were copied from. Many features were exaggerated. Huge c-bout square corners--13mm wide, etc. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jacobsaunders Posted February 21 Report Share Posted February 21 5 hours ago, Thomas Knight said: 3 hours ago, Delabo said: So now the top is off is it Salzkammergut or British ? It’s lying on somebody's kilt, if that’s a clue Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Thomas Knight Posted February 21 Author Report Share Posted February 21 4 minutes ago, jacobsaunders said: It’s lying on somebody's kilt, if that’s a clue Jacob, thanks for the unmistakable clue. I also have a set of bagpipes to finish the deal. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
martin swan Posted February 21 Report Share Posted February 21 That's no kilt, that's a pseudo-tartan blanket ... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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