duane88 Posted February 6, 2021 Report Share Posted February 6, 2021 In for repairs today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodland Posted February 7, 2021 Report Share Posted February 7, 2021 Don't know. There was a "luthier" of sorts who worked in the Chicago area years ago by the name of Stan who would perform bizarre work, including ill-fitting hollow sound posts made of cocobolo. The guy was legendary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeorgeH Posted February 7, 2021 Report Share Posted February 7, 2021 Are you going to leave it in? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duane88 Posted February 7, 2021 Author Report Share Posted February 7, 2021 35 minutes ago, GeorgeH said: Are you going to leave it in? It has saddle cracks and a low neck angle, and it isn't mine, so I don't think that they want to spend the funds to remove and rehab it. Besides, it belonged to dad, and he got it from grandpa, and they both played it, so probably it will be left as-is. Odd things upon further inspection: 1-the little posts are not glued in place. Amazing that they are still standing even without tension on the fiddle for years. 2-No linings-top or back. Combined with the strange corner blocks, I think that it was done on purpose from the beginning. You couldn't get this thing into the instrument with linings on the top, so I guess they decided that they were not needed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeDeF Posted February 7, 2021 Report Share Posted February 7, 2021 As to why it was done, all I can think of is perhaps to create more vibrating surface area, maybe to increase amplitude of the lower modes? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dwight Brown Posted February 7, 2021 Report Share Posted February 7, 2021 It’s for divisi passages..... I’m going to hell now. DLB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Three13 Posted February 7, 2021 Report Share Posted February 7, 2021 For someone who doesn’t think a Virzi Tone producer is enough... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeDeF Posted February 7, 2021 Report Share Posted February 7, 2021 Hey Dwight, It's not one but •two• coffee tables! Joe (former IAA faculty -- after you left) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeorgeH Posted February 7, 2021 Report Share Posted February 7, 2021 9 hours ago, duane88 said: Besides, it belonged to dad, and he got it from grandpa, and they both played it, so probably it will be left as-is. Maybe the idea was to funnel/channel the sound to the ffs. Or create additional resonance chambers. I am glad that they are keeping it "as-is." I love stuff like this. What are they having done to it? I hope it is playable when you're through, and you can let us all know how it sounds. Thanks for posting this! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rue Posted February 7, 2021 Report Share Posted February 7, 2021 ...and every time you think you've seen it all.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shelbow Posted February 7, 2021 Report Share Posted February 7, 2021 How curious, is the instrument quite heavy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty Kasprzyk Posted February 7, 2021 Report Share Posted February 7, 2021 20 minutes ago, Rue said: ...and every time you think you've seen it all.... My f holes never seem to agree with one another. So I was thinking of putting in a vertical lengthwise inside panel to form separate cavities for the treble side and the bass side. Like a ridiculously high but thin bass bar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jluthier Posted February 8, 2021 Report Share Posted February 8, 2021 After a brief internet search: Patent Angem is German for "Patent Pend." The full term is patent angemeldet Andorf is a city in Germany There was a cornerless violin on the ebay market with the markings FALERO PATENT ANGEM. ADORF. i/V. I don't know what was inside of it. I guess Falero was probably the maker. Did he mean to patent his interior addition? Now for the interior: That looks remarkably like it is cut from cheap wall panelling that was all the rage in the mid 20th century. Regards, Jay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad H Posted February 8, 2021 Report Share Posted February 8, 2021 4 hours ago, Jluthier said: I guess Falero was probably the maker. Did he mean to patent his interior addition? Is it possible that Falero was some type of business involved in patenting musical instruments? See below violin with patented design of doubled ribs, no corner blocks, and the skinny support beam (that someone subsequently cut). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeorgeH Posted February 9, 2021 Report Share Posted February 9, 2021 55 minutes ago, Brad H said: (that someone subsequently cut). Maybe that is the way it was originally. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty Kasprzyk Posted February 9, 2021 Report Share Posted February 9, 2021 14 minutes ago, Brad H said: Is it possible that Falero was some type of business involved in patenting musical instruments? See below violin with patented design of doubled ribs, no corner blocks, and the skinny support beam (that someone subsequently cut). Falero was discussed in a January 20, 2011 MN post by member "tartaric". His January 22, 2011 shows his photograph of an internal rod bar that was one piece. WNitkin's post on January 27, 2011 shows the Otto Windish German patent which has a drawing to the double rib and internal rod. Other MN members join in a discussion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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