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2 hours ago, Wood Butcher said:

If you had the shim fitted, yet the neck elevation is continuing to decrease, it sounds like the only solution would be a full neck reset.

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Or, perhaps, the top is not stiff enough to handle the increased tension and the top is rising up, not the neck falling.

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6 minutes ago, duane88 said:

I haven't seen Juzek or Roth mentioned yet, so no, not 3 pages. Probably 5.

Failed neck shims are common on the violins made by the short lived collaboration between Juzek and Roth whilst they were on  holiday together in Pennsylvania as part of their American tour.

Look out for the label:

Juzoth of Nazareth, PA

Rumour is they were made in the C F Martin workshop.

 

 

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2 minutes ago, Shelbow said:

Failed neck shims are common on the violins made by the short lived collaboration between Juzek and Roth whilst they were on  holiday together in Pennsylvania as part of their American tour.

Look out for the label:

Juzoth of Nazareth, PA

Rumour is they were made in the C F Martin workshop.

 

 

6 pages, but no mention of shims are allowed. Only whether Juzek or Roth installed them on their orig. instruments. The ones made by the old men themselves, that is.

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45 minutes ago, duane88 said:

6 pages, but no mention of shims are allowed. Only whether Juzek or Roth installed them on their orig. instruments. The ones made by the old men themselves, that is.

No shims on my Salustri.  :D  outtahere.gif..gif.9b00a14d6196b7b6f396aba34c650498.gif

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i don't remember checking the value of projection when i made the viola in the 80s... i had already made 2 -4/4 violins...when i made the  15 one half inches or so viola i used info from several sources both commercial and noncommercial...i don't remember whether i might have used the violin projection of 27 by mistake? but once all glued up it was definitely showing a weak angle and when i tried to find a 31 I found the bridge short with resulting poor tone...as a violinist I'm about like a 12 hdcp golfer...I had never attempted a REAL neck reset but 2 NewYork specials worked on violins i was restoring..who knows why i decided to add a tapering shim which still didn't work on my own.

I am disappointed that there is no record of me in Maestronet...just wrote a book called "nice try dale"..seems appropriate to be forgotten already

.i am  retired MD senior citizen, amateur sculptor, and goldsmith..i tried to tell your computer that i already was a member and used to call myself Chanot, but thought it too pretentious and just used my first name Dale for any semi recent submissions.... wasn't expecting to be given a native name ..especially a milk toast one like.. "look i'm running"... sorry that "stands with fists raised" and "sitting bull" were both already used

..i finally got my mind clarified and began the true reset today...of course for some bizarre reason i had glued in the shim and finger board with some strange product that would no way soften with increase temperature..so i decided to remove the shim by sawing with my super thin saw and try to preserve the pure finger board for the next steps in the neck restoration..call me crazy but for some flash of mania i thought i could beat the system and try New York special.... I used alcohol to try to free seams  not orally... to get part of upper bout to detach from upper block... but it failed and added cracks to belly.

 

 

could have taken the shim and fingder board as one unit but safer this way...so now I'll be watching projection and overstand and bridge height more closely..

.i was disappointed that the computer and the moderator

  would't believe i'm an old member...i am a senior citizen and a better native name would be" look I've gone to sleep in my armchair"

 Hi viola d'amore

 How many alligators now?

 

Dale Palko              

 

 

 

 

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