P J Lester Posted January 27, 2021 Report Share Posted January 27, 2021 Seeking advice on authenticity of this violin. Is it what it claims to be? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wood Butcher Posted January 27, 2021 Report Share Posted January 27, 2021 More pictures here https://www.ebay.com/itm/Old-French-Violin-Guarnerius-1937-Paul-Beuscher-excellent-condition/224329550808?hash=item343b154bd8:g:j8oAAOSwzH9f6MQX Seller is well known, but not for the reasons you would like Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacobsaunders Posted January 27, 2021 Report Share Posted January 27, 2021 Beuscher is a name one finds in no end of Mirecourt trade violins. The French colleagues could tell us if a person of that name ever existed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strad O Various Jr. Posted January 27, 2021 Report Share Posted January 27, 2021 This belongs in the Auction Scroll Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Borisravel Posted January 27, 2021 Report Share Posted January 27, 2021 Yes, Paul and Pierre Beuscher were two sellers in Paris, but they are not from the same familly. Paul sold some low budget instruments, Pierre was a real luthier et sold some high end and antique instruments. In the same spirit, they was Camurat too, but rather in guitars. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
match Posted January 27, 2021 Report Share Posted January 27, 2021 Paul Beuscher was a music store, selling instruments from the Mirecourt production. It still exists at the same address as 1850 and sells Chinese student instruments now: https://www.paul-beuscher.com/PBCPPlayer.asp?ID=1445104 Never heard about Pierre. Couldn't also find him at the Vannes Dictionnaire. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Three13 Posted January 27, 2021 Report Share Posted January 27, 2021 4 hours ago, pipper said: Seeking advice on authenticity of this violin. Is it what it claims to be? The instrument pictured has nothing to do with the labels that have been sloppily stuck inside. Before reading Wood Butcher's post, I'd have guessed it was being sold on eBay by one of several accounts in France that all seem to be interrelated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacobsaunders Posted January 27, 2021 Report Share Posted January 27, 2021 9 minutes ago, Three13 said: The instrument pictured has nothing to do with the labels that have been sloppily stuck inside. Before reading Wood Butcher's post, I'd have guessed it was being sold on eBay by one of several accounts in France that all seem to be interrelated. Nonsense, there are many Mirecourt boxes labelled thus, presumably from day one, although I have never seen (noticed) the DG monogram “SHI” misspelt (ISH) before Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Three13 Posted January 27, 2021 Report Share Posted January 27, 2021 4 minutes ago, jacobsaunders said: Nonsense, there are many Mirecourt boxes labelled thus, presumably from day one, although I have never seen (noticed) the DG monogram “SHI” misspelt (ISH) before Setting aside the Beuscher label, does the violin pictured above look anything like a del Gesu model? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
match Posted January 27, 2021 Report Share Posted January 27, 2021 10 minutes ago, jacobsaunders said: although I have never seen (noticed) the DG monogram “SHI” misspelt (ISH) before Perhaps it means guarneriusish Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacobsaunders Posted January 27, 2021 Report Share Posted January 27, 2021 3 minutes ago, match said: Perhaps it means guarneriusish Yeah, surely. Rather hopeful though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeorgeH Posted January 27, 2021 Report Share Posted January 27, 2021 5 minutes ago, Three13 said: Setting aside the Beuscher label, does the violin pictured above look anything like a del Gesu model? Setting aside even that, does it even look French? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
match Posted January 27, 2021 Report Share Posted January 27, 2021 4 minutes ago, Three13 said: Setting aside the Beuscher label, does the violin pictured above look anything like a del Gesu model? No, but as you can see in the Roth thread it isn't necassary to look as a Strad for a Strad model Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
match Posted January 27, 2021 Report Share Posted January 27, 2021 4 minutes ago, GeorgeH said: Setting aside even that, does it even look French? Oui, sans doute monsieur. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacobsaunders Posted January 27, 2021 Report Share Posted January 27, 2021 13 minutes ago, Three13 said: Setting aside the Beuscher label, does the violin pictured above look anything like a del Gesu model? No, not at all, it is just a Mirecout box ( a pressed one probably) I have a ¾ sized “Stradivarius” labeled one, which looks just the same, which I rent out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Borisravel Posted January 27, 2021 Report Share Posted January 27, 2021 3 hours ago, match said: Paul Beuscher was a music store, selling instruments from the Mirecourt production. It still exists at the same address as 1850 and sells Chinese student instruments now: https://www.paul-beuscher.com/PBCPPlayer.asp?ID=1445104 Never heard about Pierre. Couldn't also find him at the Vannes Dictionnaire. He was a fine seller, but had the bad obsession to glue his label on every instruments. A friend of mine bought a Vuillaume bow on his shop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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