W.C. Posted January 21 Report Share Posted January 21 https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/284150330315 Saw this listing on eBay. Definitely not a Pierray, but the craftsmanship seems ok. The center bouts seem very short as compared to most violins? Posting for educational purposes, what could this be? Is it even French? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jacobsaunders Posted January 21 Report Share Posted January 21 6 minutes ago, W.C. said: Is it even French? Yes, 1830-1840ish Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Wood Butcher Posted January 21 Report Share Posted January 21 I wouldn't be surprised if it carried the large triangular brand on the back. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
martin swan Posted January 21 Report Share Posted January 21 Yes this is a Didier Nicolas or similar - a trade Mirecourt violin from 1830 ish as Jacob says. Generally these are rather oversized and I wouldn't be at all surprised if our friend in the South has measured it with his normalizing tape measure. The nasty pitting is recent and helps to cover unsightly crack repairs - I see various cracks in the table along with the gammy button repair. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jacobsaunders Posted January 21 Report Share Posted January 21 19 minutes ago, martin swan said: Yes this is a Didier Nicolas or similar - a trade Mirecourt violin from 1830 ish as Jacob says. We should perhaps point out to WC; that there was a whole crowd of makers there that made fiddles that looked like that. I am at a loss to think how one could put definitive names to each of them, unless perhaps they have an authentic label or (often) a stamp(s). Even with the stamped ones, one hardly knows if the stamp refers to a maker or a dealer, so one should make do with just saying “Mirecourt” and the time period. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
martin swan Posted January 21 Report Share Posted January 21 Fair point - I am assuming too much general knowledge ... In this case I think there's unlikely to be a brand since that would have made it less suitable for upscaling with a fake "Claude Pierray a Paris 1735" inscription. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
fiddlecollector Posted January 21 Report Share Posted January 21 Had a couple in the past that were similar and carried Maline brands inside. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
W.C. Posted February 4 Author Report Share Posted February 4 My apologies for my absence in the past two weeks, as work really occupied most of my time... I just want to say thank you to Martin and Jacob and fiddlecollector! Learning from you guys everyday! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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