sospiri Posted January 22, 2021 Report Posted January 22, 2021 44 minutes ago, David Burgess said: Most varnishes will eventually develop some porosity, (even if they didn't start out that way), which incorporates air voids. Applying almost anything with a refractive index close to that of the varnish can fill these voids, rendering the varnish more transparent and more intense in color, whether it be Hill polish or Lemon Pledge. French polishing can fill some of these voids too. But I wouldn't recommend modifying the varnish on the Messiah Strad this way, even if some people thought that it would improve the appearance. An extreme example of how this porosity alters the color perception is a "water ring" on a piece of furniture. All the color in the varnish and the wood underneath is still there, but is occluded by the multiple changes in the refractive index, making the color look much more pale, even white.. The art of Dichroism in varnishing?
Michael_Molnar Posted January 22, 2021 Report Posted January 22, 2021 On 1/20/2021 at 3:43 PM, Bruce Carlson said: What about the other 90 instruments that were in the shop? Perhaps not all new. The Cremonese varnish becomes particularly striking when you have wear and usage. Right. This is what happens when an astronomer grabs a microscope instead of a telescope.
Michael_Molnar Posted January 22, 2021 Report Posted January 22, 2021 Let me weigh into Burgess’ explanation of color theory. He is talking about adjusting the saturation value by fiddling (pun) with the scattering of light at the surface. Maybe this 3D color wheel will help.
Urban Luthier Posted January 22, 2021 Report Posted January 22, 2021 The wonderful thing about the Ashmolean is that one can see the Messiah in context of dozen or so other first rate instruments. The room is almost always empty so it is easy to spend quality time. Lots can be seen with the naked eye (even in low light) that can't be seen in photographs.
Bodacious Cowboy Posted January 22, 2021 Report Posted January 22, 2021 On 1/20/2021 at 8:30 PM, Michael_Molnar said: Not meaning to throw fuel on any fires, but I too have suggested that The Messiah is a shop reject. Not because it has a crack or some other mechanical issue, but that it’s colored varnish is not in the red color style of its siblings. Compared to its contemporary violins it stands out as being more orange than red. The difference is not due to The Messiah’s excellent state of preservation. My theory is that Maestro Strad did not approve its sale. Well, in my opinion, the Messiah looked perfectly at home beside its siblings in the 2013 Oxford exhibition. One of my many abiding memories of that momentous occasion. Will we ever have such an opportunity again?....I may become emotional......
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