mendicus Posted January 17 Report Share Posted January 17 I am sure violin was made in 18th (early 19th) century.It is stamped SS around button hole. Makers with initials SS from this period I have found are Sanctus Seraphin, Spirito Sorsana and Simon Schödler who I think is most probable option. LOB is 353mm, assymetrical corner blocks, linings look t be let into corner blocks. Neck with scroll is missing. Could it be Simon Schödler or SS are not makers initials? Thanks Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Wood Butcher Posted January 17 Report Share Posted January 17 I don't know what it is, but it's possible those brands are not original to the instrument. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mendicus Posted January 17 Author Report Share Posted January 17 6 minutes ago, Wood Butcher said: I don't know what it is, but it's possible those brands are not original to the instrument. it looks to be covered by original varnish Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jacobsaunders Posted January 17 Report Share Posted January 17 It certainly isn't a Schödler. I illustrated a Schödler here, so you will be able to see for yourself. Alternativly if you were to visit, I could show it to you Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mendicus Posted January 17 Author Report Share Posted January 17 56 minutes ago, jacobsaunders said: It certainly isn't a Schödler. I illustrated a Schödler here, so you will be able to see for yourself. Alternativly if you were to visit, I could show it to you I have read this Schödler thread but thought it is still more probable option than Sorsana or Seraphin. So stamped SS are not makers initials? If I remember correctly I have read that wax seals under button were used in monasteries or churches. Could it be that violin was ordered by monastery with SS initials? Do you have any idea what it could be? If there wasn't that stamp I would think it to be Viennese or Prague violin c. 1750-1780. I really want to visit you for long time, among other things because of that Jacop Schw... violin we talked about some year or two ago. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Blank face Posted January 17 Report Share Posted January 17 The only South German maker I can think of in this regards would be Matheus Friedrich Scheinlein. Though he usually branded rather MFS, he could have accidentally used the first letter of his surname doubled. The model has some similarities. Being related to the Nürnberg school he used almost always walnut linings, so this could be a hint. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jacobsaunders Posted January 17 Report Share Posted January 17 I certainly don’t know of a maker who stamped “SS” by the end button (Schödler didn't), and one can not be sure that these are the initials of a maker, rather that an owner. I agree that it looks like a K&K violin, 1800ish. The wax seal is unfortunately in a state, where one will not be able to glean any clues. Otherwise, should you open it, I hope you will post pictures of the inside Quote Link to post Share on other sites
baroquecello Posted January 17 Report Share Posted January 17 12 hours ago, mendicus said: S O S Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rue Posted January 17 Report Share Posted January 17 Would an owner have had wood stamps on hand? Seems odd. Unless you meant a shop? Or a school? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Andreas Preuss Posted January 19 Report Share Posted January 19 On January 18, 2021 at 7:43 AM, baroquecello said: S O S Thinking of German abbreviations with SS all sorts of things come to mind and some vulgar words made me laugh hard... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Andreas Preuss Posted January 19 Report Share Posted January 19 On January 18, 2021 at 3:54 AM, jacobsaunders said: I certainly don’t know of a maker who stamped “SS” by the end button (Schödler didn't), and one can not be sure that these are the initials of a maker, rather that an owner. I agree that it looks like a K&K violin, 1800ish. The wax seal is unfortunately in a state, where one will not be able to glean any clues. Otherwise, should you open it, I hope you will post pictures of the inside Wasn't there a Sebastian Schelle somewhere? However, no idea if this fits. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jacobsaunders Posted January 19 Report Share Posted January 19 38 minutes ago, Andreas Preuss said: Wasn't there a Sebastian Schelle somewhere? However, no idea if this fits. Leopold Widhalm's father-in-law in Nürnburg. Doesn't even remotely fit. Keep trying Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Andreas Preuss Posted January 19 Report Share Posted January 19 1 hour ago, jacobsaunders said: Leopold Widhalm's father-in-law in Nürnburg. Doesn't even remotely fit. Keep trying Now I know Sagmir Sonstwas, Geigen und Lauterzeug Macher, in Mitimwahn an der Irrsinn. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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