Makers initials SS 18th c. violin ID


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I am sure violin was made in 18th (early 19th) century.It is stamped SS around button hole. Makers with initials SS from this period I have found are Sanctus Seraphin, Spirito Sorsana and Simon Schödler who I think is most probable option.

LOB is 353mm, assymetrical corner blocks, linings look t be let into corner blocks. Neck with scroll is missing. Could it be Simon Schödler or SS are not makers initials?

Thanks

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56 minutes ago, jacobsaunders said:

It certainly isn't a Schödler. I illustrated a Schödler here, so you will be able to see for yourself. Alternativly if you were to visit, I could show it to you

I have read this Schödler thread but thought it is still more probable option than Sorsana or Seraphin. So stamped SS are not makers initials? If I remember correctly I have read that wax seals under button were used in monasteries or churches. Could it be that violin was ordered by monastery with SS initials?

Do you have any idea what it could be? If there wasn't that stamp I would think it to be Viennese or Prague violin c. 1750-1780.

I really want to visit you for long time, among other things because of that Jacop Schw... violin we talked about some year or two ago.

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The only South German maker I can think of in this regards would be Matheus Friedrich Scheinlein. Though he usually branded rather MFS, he could have accidentally used the first letter of his surname doubled. The model has some similarities. Being related to the Nürnberg school he used almost always walnut linings, so this could be a hint.

 

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I certainly don’t know of a maker who stamped “SS” by the end button (Schödler didn't), and one can not be sure that these are the initials of a maker, rather that an owner. I agree that it looks like a K&K violin, 1800ish. The wax seal is unfortunately in a state, where one will not be able to glean any clues. Otherwise, should you open it, I hope you will post pictures of the inside

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On January 18, 2021 at 3:54 AM, jacobsaunders said:

I certainly don’t know of a maker who stamped “SS” by the end button (Schödler didn't), and one can not be sure that these are the initials of a maker, rather that an owner. I agree that it looks like a K&K violin, 1800ish. The wax seal is unfortunately in a state, where one will not be able to glean any clues. Otherwise, should you open it, I hope you will post pictures of the inside

Wasn't  there a Sebastian Schelle somewhere?

However, no idea if this fits.

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