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'Arrow' Pizzicato from Violin Concerto No.1, Op.19 by Sergei Prokofiev


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On 11/25/2020 at 5:32 PM, Stephen Fine said:

It's fast, so your pizz. can't all go "down".  You strum up and down using both the front of the finger (like normal) and the back of the finger, including the nail.

I don't quite understand.  Does the transcription imply stop the strings with three left hand fingers and pizzicato with the left pinky or figure out a bow hold for the right hand so one doesn't drop the bow?

My way would be to hire a bow holder for the four or five measures of pizzicato so I wouldn't drop the bow and when done with that grab the bow from the hired help and continue arco.   

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Oops, I missed the "m.s." in the excerpt above.  If that applies to the whole passage, then it isn't the flamenco-style strumming after all.  (Might be easier with right hand though?)

(Edit: )  I now see that neither of the two scores on imslp has the m.s. indication, so I guess the composer intended right hand. 

(2nd edit:)  Just checked Hilary Hahn's performance on Youtube.  As I expected, she plays LH pizz for the open E only, then strums with right hand.

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1 hour ago, J-G said:

Oops, I missed the "m.s." in the excerpt above.  If that applies to the whole passage, then it isn't the flamenco-style strumming after all.  (Might be easier with right hand though?)

(Edit: )  I now see that neither of the two scores on imslp has the m.s. indication, so I guess the composer intended right hand. 

(2nd edit:)  Just checked Hilary Hahn's performance on Youtube.  As I expected, she plays LH pizz for the open E only, then strums with right hand.

Yes. The m.s. only applies before the start of the rasugueado, according to all videos found online.

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On 11/27/2020 at 11:37 AM, uncle duke said:

I don't quite understand.  Does the transcription imply stop the strings with three left hand fingers and pizzicato with the left pinky or figure out a bow hold for the right hand so one doesn't drop the bow?

My way would be to hire a bow holder for the four or five measures of pizzicato so I wouldn't drop the bow and when done with that grab the bow from the hired help and continue arco.   

It's an instruction for R.H. pizz. with the bow in the hand.  

(I now realize that in my original description I said front of the finger/back of the finger, but I neglected to say, G to E/E to G.)

I am bad at this particular instruction, so I have used 2 fingers before (alternating index and middle finger of the R.H.) and a combination of R.H. and L.H. pizz.

However, if I played more orchestra rep, I would practice the technique as instructed, because it does come up.

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