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Vintage Violin Identification

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Hello all! 

I'm hoping to identify both of these vintage violins. As far as I know my grandfather bought them in Great Falls Montana in the 1930s. Neither violin has labels inside. The only thing that has stood out to me is that the first violin has a visible neck graft line and has rounded edges which seems unique. 

Would love any thoughts or ideas! 

Thank you in advance :)

VIOLIN #1

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VIOLIN #2

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Thats all, THANKS!

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Welcome to the forum.

No2 looks like a French factory violin early 20th century. Check inside centre seam for cleats.

No idea about No1 even though i have seen similarly constructed instruments before (just don't remember any particulars). Someone else will probably be able to help.

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Number 1 usually has a label that reads something like, Rigat Rubus St. Petersburg 18__. Never seen one that wasn't Germanic. Can't keep a chinrest on them, well, you can, but i won't relate how I have seen them attached to the violin. What ever you do, don't try to remove a plate for repair. You'll never get it back on properly. They don't usually sound that great. A friend has one that I sold him that he uses as his "Calico" fiddle. Calico is a cross-tuning used in old time fiddle, named after a tuning used by Marcus Martin when he was recorded playing a tune that he called Calico-A-E-A-C#, low to high.

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20 hours ago, duane88 said:

Number 1 usually has a label that reads something like, Rigat Rubus St. Petersburg 18__. Never seen one that wasn't Germanic. 

Yes, it is Rubus model. Saxon made. And 2nd looks like cheap grade JTL

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