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Could any of you help to identify this violin? My luthier gave it to me as a trial with two other instruments before purchase.  He’s terrific, and believes it is mid century Eastern European but doesn’t know further details.  It has no label, but has what looks like two roses or a tree engraved on the back of the neck.  

I like the way it plays and would love to know more if any have some ideas.  


Thanks in advance 

Dan


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It looks not badly made, but the maker had an odd taste. Both the f-hole model and the varnish shading are highly unusual (I like neither). The Instrument looks brand new to me, and the combination of odd features/bad taste but ok craftsmanship makes me believe it is chinese. I would expect its value to be a couple of hundred dollars.

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Well that’s disappointing.  Glad I asked.  Thank you both.  I have one other I’m curious about that I’ll post shortly.  
 

Much appreciated.  This forum is a wonderful resource.  Very much enjoyed perusing so far

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On 8/9/2020 at 8:24 PM, Danios said:

Well that’s disappointing.  Glad I asked.  Thank you both.  I have one other I’m curious about that I’ll post shortly.  
 

Much appreciated.  This forum is a wonderful resource.  Very much enjoyed perusing so far

While it might be exactly as outlined above (makes sense), it doesn't necessarily have to be like that. Your luthier should be able to tell the difference between a brand new instrument and and instrument that's over 50 years old on physical examination (rather than just photos). So I would give him some the benefit of doubt.

However, as violins go, the "features" on this one are way out there in la-la-land and I would avoid it on that basis alone.

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4 hours ago, Barry J. Griffiths said:

I’d like to see a photo of the side of the neck where it meets the pegbox, under the nut.

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24 minutes ago, Guido said:

While it might be exactly as outlined above (makes sense), it doesn't necessarily have to be like that. Your luthier should be able to tell the difference between a brand new instrument and and instrument that's over 50 years old on physical examination (rather than just photos). So I would give him some the benefit of doubt.

However, as violins go, the "features" on this one are way out there in la-la-land and I would avoid it on that basis alone.

Agreed.  He’s a good guy and I trust him. He was clear that he thought so but wasn’t sure.  That’s why I posted here for opinions.  Appreciate the perspective though

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Your luthier has some good points for his/her assumption. The model with the long C-bouts, hooked corners, long f-holes (not minding the odd tips), wood choice , deep channeling at the edges, varnish, purfling etc. all are typical „Bohemian“. 

Maybe the date could be a bit later, but 20th century isn’t impossible in my eyes.

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2 hours ago, Blank face said:

Your luthier has some good points for his/her assumption. The model with the long C-bouts, hooked corners, long f-holes (not minding the odd tips), wood choice , deep channeling at the edges, varnish, purfling etc. all are typical „Bohemian“. 

Maybe the date could be a bit later, but 20th century isn’t impossible in my eyes.

That would be great

 

Tough decision.  Truth be told I like the way it sounds and it is easy to play.  Not sure I can get over the uncertainty and the style though 

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