JacksonMaberry Posted August 7, 2020 Report Share Posted August 7, 2020 For your consideration, a full 32 piece set of the well-known knockoff herdim closing clamps sold by a variety of Chinese eBay vendors. They have been modified to better resemble the correct jaw structure of the original herdims, because they don't work correctly if you don't. These sell new and unusable for $130 shipped from China, I am offering them used and usable for $100 shipped. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
l33tplaya Posted August 8, 2020 Report Share Posted August 8, 2020 How did you modify them? Do you have a picture of an unmodified one to compare? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
chungviolins Posted August 8, 2020 Report Share Posted August 8, 2020 It looks like the outside tongue is cut down. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JacksonMaberry Posted August 8, 2020 Author Report Share Posted August 8, 2020 That's exactly right - when you get them from the factory, the outermost ridge (where the pressure is intended to be applied) is level with the inner ridge, which is intended to index against the edge. By lowering the outer ridge it restores the proportions and function of the original design Quote Link to post Share on other sites
J Corry Posted August 8, 2020 Report Share Posted August 8, 2020 Pm sent. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MarkBouquet Posted August 8, 2020 Report Share Posted August 8, 2020 I did that with mine too, but I can’t help thinking that after all these years the manufacturer would have realized that they’re wrong and changed them. I guess they’d have to remake the molds, essentially starting from scratch, and since people still buy them anyway (like me, who didn’t know better at the time), why bother? They’re good after modifying them. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JacksonMaberry Posted August 8, 2020 Author Report Share Posted August 8, 2020 22 minutes ago, MarkBouquet said: I did that with mine too, but I can’t help thinking that after all these years the manufacturer would have realized that they’re wrong and changed them. I guess they’d have to remake the molds, essentially starting from scratch, and since people still buy them anyway (like me, who didn’t know better at the time), why bother? They’re good after modifying them. I think you've hit the nail on the head! I have replaced these with another Chinese set, recommended by Jerry Lynn, that's made of wood with leather lined jaws. It took almost four months from when I ordered because they first sent me - wait for it- another set of the herdim knock offs. It had been five years since I bought and modified my set and they are clearly using the same molds. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jeff White Posted August 9, 2020 Report Share Posted August 9, 2020 21 hours ago, MarkBouquet said: I did that with mine too, but I can’t help thinking that after all these years the manufacturer would have realized that they’re wrong and changed them. I guess they’d have to remake the molds, essentially starting from scratch, and since people still buy them anyway (like me, who didn’t know better at the time), why bother? They’re good after modifying them. Me too, made a huge difference. However, I finally pulled the trigger for the real thing and after years of using the "modified" chinese, I would never go back. What I like the most about the Herdim, is the "softness and pliability" of the material, keeps the jaw from wanting to "spin" when tightening quickly. I can''t figure out why they don't modify the mold either, it's a bit of a no brainer. If they did that, and also changed the material to a hardish rubber, they could sell way more without much of a cost increase. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JacksonMaberry Posted August 13, 2020 Author Report Share Posted August 13, 2020 Still available! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JacksonMaberry Posted August 29, 2020 Author Report Share Posted August 29, 2020 Reduced to $80 shipped within the US Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JacksonMaberry Posted September 4, 2020 Author Report Share Posted September 4, 2020 Reduced to $70, shipped within the US. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MarkBouquet Posted September 5, 2020 Report Share Posted September 5, 2020 There comes a time when you might as well keep them. Will you never need to glue two violins at the same time? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JacksonMaberry Posted September 5, 2020 Author Report Share Posted September 5, 2020 15 minutes ago, MarkBouquet said: There comes a time when you might as well keep them. Will you never need to glue two violins at the same time? Every dollar helps when you're a fiddle maker married to a fiddle player during a pandemic. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JacksonMaberry Posted September 12, 2020 Author Report Share Posted September 12, 2020 Sold, thanks all. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
doiiels Posted October 7, 2020 Report Share Posted October 7, 2020 (edited) I would buy them all if you can post them to my location. I am from Seattle, possible you close to my place, check about population of Seattle. But I need to know were exactly you are based. I need this information to calculate how much the delivery to the door will cost me. And I need to know the rough weight of the parcel. Honestly, I do not think it will be too expensive. Edited October 8, 2020 by doiiels Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MarkBouquet Posted October 7, 2020 Report Share Posted October 7, 2020 Here’s a photo essay I put up before about the way I modified mine. Perhaps this will answer your question. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
J.DiLisio Posted October 7, 2020 Report Share Posted October 7, 2020 The bull nose plane looks like the perfect tool for the job. On 8/8/2020 at 2:09 PM, JacksonMaberry said: I think you've hit the nail on the head! I have replaced these with another Chinese set, recommended by Jerry Lynn, that's made of wood with leather lined jaws. It took almost four months from when I ordered because they first sent me - wait for it- another set of the herdim knock offs. It had been five years since I bought and modified my set and they are clearly using the same molds. Hey Jackson, do you have a link for the wood and leather clamps? I'm curious to see how nice those are. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JacksonMaberry Posted October 8, 2020 Author Report Share Posted October 8, 2020 20 hours ago, J.DiLisio said: The bull nose plane looks like the perfect tool for the job. Hey Jackson, do you have a link for the wood and leather clamps? I'm curious to see how nice those are. https://www.ebay.com/itm/233340106950 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
J.DiLisio Posted October 10, 2020 Report Share Posted October 10, 2020 Thanks! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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