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Garth E.

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Can you feel a screw head or whatever on the inside under the liner fabric? Anyway, if the objective is to get the remnants of the old fasteners out, you might consider drilling a hole in a steel bar to match the diameter of a small end mill, and position that bar in place over the fasteners using clamps and wood blocks. Then let the hole guide your drill chucked end mill to cut the fasteners out. It’s just an idea. I don’t really know where you’re trying to go with this. Apologies if I’ve completely missed the point.

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21 minutes ago, MarkBouquet said:

I don’t really know where you’re trying to go with this. Apologies if I’ve completely missed the point.

No Apologies needed Mark. I don't feel the head of any bolts on the inside. Possibly a brass cotter pin. I can probably find enough purchase to draw the stubs out. It's bolting up the new handle without slicing in to the liner underneath that has me in a quandary for now.

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1 hour ago, Garth E. said:

No Apologies needed Mark. I don't feel the head of any bolts on the inside. Possibly a brass cotter pin. I can probably find enough purchase to draw the stubs out. It's bolting up the new handle without slicing in to the liner underneath that has me in a quandary for now.

Could you grab them with small hemostats, pull them up, then nip them flush with a small pair of diagonal cutters?

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I remember those cases put the handle in the most impossibly awkward place imaginable. Why not just ignore the original location and install a handle on the side, where any normal person would want it.

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11 hours ago, Garth E. said:

Two brass stubs are sticking up that belonged to the original handle on my violin case. Not sure how the original handle was installed but I don't want to try and pull off the top header inside. It's in there very tight. I also really don't want to install a handle that would require 2 through screws. that might require opening up two small installation screw holes. However that may be the most obvious course. Probably a more obvious solution that I'm not seeing and would appreciate any ideas. This is a restoration in progress.

 

 

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It looks like there was a brass finger plate (and looking on the web I see some were very ornate).  Can you make brass plate the correct size and shape and attach it to the stubs?  I was wondering if they could be used as rivets - possibly not high enough - or drilled and tapped.

What I mean is a cover for the area and to make the brass pegs appear to do something. An escutcheon plate - there's a phrase I never thought I'd write.

My thoughts on a rainy day.

Keep safe.

Tim

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1 hour ago, Violadamore said:

Could you grab them with small hemostats, pull them up, then nip them flush with a small pair of diagonal cutters?

Yes I've tried. Like wisdom teeth. I can get a decent grip but I don't want to take a chance cracking it with too much pressure. Thanks.

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46 minutes ago, TimRobinson said:

or drilled and tapped.

I might just look into that. I can't go too deep without damaging the underside though. I'll have a good look. Thanks.

 

1 hour ago, PhilipKT said:

install a handle on the side, where any normal person would want it.

Somebody had an idea... then they all went along with it. See it all the time.

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7 hours ago, Violadamore said:

Could you grab them with small hemostats, pull them up, then nip them flush with a small pair of diagonal cutters?

you did catch the reason for doing anything at all to it is "they're getting caught on stuff"... 

 

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4 hours ago, Bill Merkel said:

you did catch the reason for doing anything at all

Sorry Bill, I really appreciate the helpful advice from others here.

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I suspect that the original case handle was installed before the lining was installed. The original handle may have been installed with something like split rivets. I don't hold out much hope for getting what's left of the original hardware out, or installing new hardware, without disturbing the lining.

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3 minutes ago, FiddleDoug said:

The original handle may have been installed with something like split rivets.

I think you've nailed it FiddleDoug. Pulling them out would make a mess. Somebody tried many years ago and that's why the stubs are so distorted. 

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